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This wasn't a date night...It was a 30-sec cutscene with 3-4 sentence conversation. You cant feel connection, intimacy....extremely bland and worthless conversations. People who designed this have no idea what qualifies as a date. As expected.
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Interesting...i have been playing of 11 years and did not know that. I have completed almost everything there is to complete in the game multiple times, but i have never seen that 1% bonus mentioned anywhere, nor shown. Thanks. I though those story lines only gave some Presence, but i guess not.
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With 2694 Accuracy i am at 9 %, not 10 % if i check the details window. Is this correct?
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I agree. LS SW is my favourite to play, together with DS Knight. Great choices, great nuances, lots of room for roleplay. I dont like DS Warrior and LS Knight, they are too boring and predicatble.
LS Inquisitor is also great, i have played it, tho i prefer DS Inquisitor. But both can work. You can either play LS, as a former slave, who is empathetic with the slaves in the Empire and develops a purpose to change it for good , having suffered betrayals and etc....or all your suffering, pain and upringing brakes you and you go full DS - taking command over what you can. Again...lots of room for roleplay with Inquistor.
As for the other classes... i am convinced DS Trooper for example just wants to commit crazy war crimes and go all armed thug on everyone's a**. LS Trooper feels more in-line with the story.
Bounty Hunter is more enojoyable for me playing it LS, as well as LS Agent - great story development there.-
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Full DS Sith Warrior is cool, but ultimately boring...its some mindless beast who goes on a killing spree in any opportunity they get...I guess it could be fun for a 6 year old. LS Sith Warrior is way more fun for me, it has some of Darth Malgus world view on Illum/False Emperor storyline, about changing the Empire and So forth.
The same way, DS Jedi Knight is way more interesting than the boring, limited and straightforward LS Knight is.
DS Inqusitor however is where its at. It really compliments the slave upbringing and countless betrayals the Inquisitor suffers.-
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Ok devs...so what happens....If i romanced Vette during Vanilla and continued the Romance in KOTFE/KOTET...then on Ossus i meet Light Side Jaesa, game offers me a Romance Trigger and I picked and suddenly a Relationship with Jaesa is active...I have tried it ( by chance had a LS Warrior and in the companion info says both a Romanced)....what happens in Date Night in that case....assuming of course you ever make those companions active for date night....and not some other yass queen nobodies...
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13 minutes ago, JakRoanin said:
Ugh. The Imp side had a horrible Apophis type boss. And Pub side was worse. Colonel Gallo was okay, but you accomplish nothing Pub Side. At least you got to make a real difference on Voss.
I am sorry, but is this for real? Voss is as worthless as Manaan as a story part. NOTHING was accomplished going there...absolutely nothing. The plot wasnt forwarded in any way, its just some empty vague dialogue by the new Three. Not even a little detail or explanation. The story of the daily area...oh my god...the PC being the most powerful in the galaxy....is suddenly a cantina cleaner and a waiter...a courier for some consumables between gormak and voss, going on a cave tour....and dealing with some czerka nobodies....this isnt even worthy of a side mission in the Vanilla Game....side missions there on random planets get more story and feels more accomplishing.
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On 2/18/2024 at 2:52 AM, IramUnleashed said:
I think you misunderstood my question. I never stated nor implied it was in Interpreter's Retreat. I was asking if there was any menton of what happened to it at Interpreter's Retreat. Not that it was there, but if there was any news of it.
No, there wasn't any info. None at all. I replayed the Interpreter Retreat (god it was painful and boring) with 4 different characters and checked everywhere. After what happened in the JK and SW storyline with sel makor, there wasnt any continuation or mentions again in the "story".
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On 10/19/2023 at 3:03 PM, Whykara said:
There actually hasn't been a single Sith in Legacy of the Sith. Malgus isn't really Sith anymore and Darth Nul is a former Jedi (and hasn't even appeared yet). I guess you could count Darth Norok, but how he got the Darth title is a mystery to me.
Agree. Putting aside this Mandalorian nonsense, which is written very badly, being an incoherent mess and incredibly boring.....Not only does Legacy of the "SITH" not have any Sith...the few shown are incompetent and feels written by a child.....This Norok is a disgrace to the Empire....after KOTET the Empire is shown to be ridicilous, led by incompetent leaders and the Emperor/Empress isnt active at all....Malgus and Nul arent Sith, there is no serious Sith Business, the Plot doesnt move forward to anything Sith.... Same with the Republic...whole expac is a disgrace.
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5 hours ago, GeneralGyro said:
thats the sad thing. a bunch of people here are Broadsword apologists. and will welcome anything even sullying the last good thing about swtor the voice acting
This. And voice acting in some quests is quite good. This was the last thing that this game had left, unsullied amongst all other failure and debacles and they went and defiled that aswell. I do believe do the copium even amongst the apologists will soon be at an end.
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The copium is strong here! Cutting voice-acted scenes for a kotor-esque dialogue in the main story is simpli unacceptable.
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On 2/15/2024 at 1:40 AM, MishaCantu said:
I just wanted to say Thank You for the "Date Night." I've seen it suggested or asked for many times. Just short, replayable content with our companions that have been silent for too long.
No, it's not just a "Girly" thing. I remember after we lost all of our companions, a lot of dudes were on here asking, "When do I get Jaesa, Vette, Kira, whoever back? Where's my wife?"
Overall I see this as a positive thing for many of us. And for those who don't care, we all survive parts of the game we don't like.
Thanks again, Devs for the little extras you add. We appreciate you.
So where are our LI...wheres Kira, Vette, Jaesa, Azshara....but no no....we got Koth, Theron and Arcann...Why 3 male and only 1 female for this Date Night???
Cause yass queens????? Men who likes female romances - get one Lana and stfu and be happy about it...good to know how those "writers" feel about this...
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5 hours ago, Guyverarmor said:
Something something small indie company something something.
But yeah, SWTOR will NEVER....NEVER...see an "Expansion" like what WoW, LOTRO, or FFXIV has. Hard stop, it won't happen. If you somehow believe that then you are deluding yourself.
Would I love it if we did? Hell yes I would, but I know it isn't happen. I will say though, really does amaze me that LOTRO somehow pumps out decent size expacs with multiple zones, quests, deeds (their version of achievements), dungeons and raids along with new items for their store as well as in-game. And from what I can tell, they have a smaller team that handles LOTRO and DDO.
If LOTRO's team can churn out good size expacs, but somehow an MMO that has one of the BIGGEST IPs attached to it cannot...then that's a failure on the devs and people working on the game. Period.
Exactly this. LOTRO and their Dev Team have proven that great things and whole expansion could be made with a small budget, if you have a competent, caring and dedicated dev team. I am amazed at the turn-around and expansions they make. The opposite is being shown in SWTOR.
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Why are the companions for this first Date Night - Koth, Theron and Arcann....and not Kira, Vette, Azshara and etc??? Cause "Yass queens?"....
Because i seriosly doubt more people have romanced Koth (facepalm), Theron and Arcann, than Vette, Kira, Jaesa, Azshara and etc... So i call BS on that excuse....for me the reason is exactly this : " Yass queens, so brave, so independant".....-
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I don't particularly mind Date Night....but why oh why the first ones are Koth, Arcann, and Theron??? Lana i get...because she isnt killable. Why not some of the Original Companions?? But after seeing in the stream who exactly writes and makes this stuff....i finally got it. A damn shame.
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Whose nonsensical and idiotc decision was the nerfing of the Mara/Sent Class...Wtf...The class feels so weak and underwhelming its not even funny.
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You say many stick aroung...which is not entirely correct. The decline of the population, stats, steam charts, server pops, etc...as I said before - tell the truth. Facts are facts, and no sugarcoating or whisful thinking can change them unfortunately. I myself, who were never unsubbed since prolly 2013-2014, have cut my sub for 2 years - the entirety of 7.0 and only recently came back to find the game in shambles and in a horrific state, not that this did surprise me in any way.
Facts are - 7.0 is a disaster, convoluted and unnecesary changes, small and meaningless updates, worst and laziest story i have ever seen. Player numbers show that.
Any selfrespecting online game with competent devs looks to keep their estabilshed core players. They are the main source of income. Arguing the opposite is total nonsense and absurdity.-
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It doesnt....this creature/thing in the Shrines of Silence FP is something random and different. They could have made a good connection with Sel Makor and new Voss....i would say stuff...because storyline is the wrong world for something so insignificant and random, but no...no...instead lets put some random czerka mercs. So no, no Sel Makor at all.
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23 hours ago, Kryptonomic said:
SWTOR is in a position of trying to cater more to newer players -- of which there can be a steady stream -- rather than catering to the "old guard," as it were. That causes friction and division. And hence we see exactly your sentiment: far from perfect, needs improving, but can still be enjoyed.
Those new players....are they in the room with us right now?? Because the hefty and steady decline of the population (look at numbers and charts) speaks volumes about people leaving and not being replaced with the same number of new players. Just lol. There is no sensible way to cater to even new players with pateticaly small and convoluted updates like 7.xx.
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8 hours ago, Pietrastor said:
The bloated stretching and comical padding is the main issue here. We all have our story preferences but before the whole Malgus/Mando era started, even if you didn't like a particular story being told you were never stuck with it for too long in SWTOR.
Didn't like the Hutts? That story was one and done within the same expansion.
Hated Dread Masters? Over after 2 years post-launch.
Didn't like Revan? His entire saga was done within 1 year.
Hated KOTFEET? Done after 2,5 years.
But the Malgus & Mando stuff been going on since fall 2018 with NO end even on the horizon..........
Those stories you mentioned have a coherent plot, have good pacing...a purpose for doing this and that, a bigger picture, good interactions...romance, competent decisions, having a main role in the events....the actions you take actually make a difference to the world building and move the story forward. There is some end goal in sight...you deal with serious threats ,there is a clear motives behind each faction actions and the leaders of the factions are shown to do this and that... Those stories and characters have a build up - building up character, events.....something which 7.0 severely lacks.
In all the expacs you mentioned there is this feeling of threat, of dread, fear of failure, being on the back foot. Do i need to even mention that this too...is lacking.
This Mando and Malgus storyline feels the opposite. There is NO meaningful threat, no faction leadership actions, everyone does random things without end goal or motives. You just...go somewhere and do some meaningless stuff without affecting the plot, which we dont even know what it is...what TF does Heta try to achieve, what was/is Malgus plan....no...just random meaningless actions. Berating the PC both power-wise and intelligence-wise.-
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KOTFE does not reboot the story. Although i understand and agree with the notion that the story is focused on certain class and background....this has been the case since the end of Vanilla....5 minute class mention/quest from ROTHC and SOR does not equal different type of story per character...it still is focusing everyone to one and the same narrative for everyone.
Now....KOTFE AND KOTET advances the story, the plot, there is character development, world building, the PC learns how to lead, trains for power-ups, deals with dangerous foes, politics involved...romance...real relationship with companions and npcs...it was interesting enough for me...and I and lot of my friends and guildmates were subbed non-stop. Lets not pretend that after KOTET the game improved...oh no...the downward spiral began...I dont know the reason...was the devs on some serious drugs to listen to the few people that wanted no chapters, but sparse and portioned content (because they said something idiotic like this) or they pushed away resources for Anthem, which anyone with a brain would have known was a dumpster fire....doesn't matter. We are at the "endgame" now...
Up until 6.0 the PC - was some of the strongest characters from their faction, defeated some godlike characters, absorbed their innate force powers....managed to build a serious power base and relationships with some powerful people....and instead of going to iokath....since you know....WE OWN THIS PLANET...to try and build new weapons, since the eternal fleet and gravestone were gone to zildrog (which was one of the most lazy and uniteresting ways to cripple the alliance)....or i dont know try to make a power move about the leadership of his/her faction...because the PC is...SO MUCH STRONGER THAN EVERYONE and so much more experienced in leadership and war....they instead decide to be a foot soldier for this ridiculous and boring imp vs rep war...ok fine...we go down that route...at least in 6.0 there is some semblance of a war and struggle for power between the factions, you deal with the leaderships of Onderon and Mek Sha, you deal with your own leadership, there is some plot advancement but not by much....some slow world building... Echoes of oblivion wraps so much up, it was done beautifully IMO. I was expecting more of that......nothing more of note is also shown for the so called imp vs rep war...no serious battles/moves between the factions.
Now we come to this Mando Nonsense before 7.0...While a Mando infighting is boring by itself, because they have no notable purpose or ambition to forward the story...we are presented with Heta Kol...who is she....what are her motives, how does she lead and inspire her troops, what is her background, motives and overall plans for doing what she does....NO...GOD NO...none of that...instead some short reasoning that feels written by a little kid..."uh huh i wanna leeaaad the mandoos - me, me, me...you a bad boss shae".... Malgus is somewhere doing something, which we expect to be a new threat/revolution/chance etc...
7.0 drops....OH MY GOD...i am not going to talk about the ridiculously dumb decision about ability pruning, class balance (Nonexistent), making the game grindy, boring, gear, needless changes....mass exodus of players etc...enough has been said...but not enough has been set for the PLOT....THERE IS NO PLOT...PC randomly goes to Manaan, where the Rep and Imp are....fighting but not really?? NO...Some lowly weak stupid Darth has decided to invade the planet...what?? Republic tries to help but not really...they send ONE JEDI...ONE...what?? Incompetent leaders?? Who makes those decisions? Why? The power structure of both factions is not shown...Where is the leaders decision making, they ruling the faction is never shown...random people making decisions on the fly.... This is written like children playing a game of catch me.It does not forward the plot...nothing happens in the story...no important characters. The PC is shown to be nothing like a leader, but a simple peon, who can be sent to any mission by anybody....and not really important missions - go press those buttons, go stop this cannon...what....Elom wraps up Darth Malgus little runaway period...but in a stupid way...he is caught....only to sit for years a prisoner, accomplishing nothing and giving bits of information about some....you guessed it - superweapon.
After that more Mando nonsense...but big time nonsense...you sneak like a coward just to cater to the dumbest plan i have ever heard...."lets not crush my opponent with overwhelming force or simply kill them"...but instead make an elaborate scheme to try and surprise them BY LITERALLY going in alone, but in secret....how come the alliance/task force/hand organization and your followers, namely Lana who is overprotective have nothing to say or even be a part of this....all that for watching a little knife duel between shae and heta...where Heta escapes yet again...the PC is getting tanked by some fkn weakling Rikan who should be dead just by looking at him....Sahar has no idea what she's doing, no plan, no development, no world building yet again...no nothing....So let me get this straight?? Some rogue Mando cell is attacking Empire and Republic and they do absolutely nothing...for 2 years?? LOL? Just now in 7.4 Krovos sends a letter explaining they will deal with this Mando nonsense. I cant even immerse myself in such a ridiculous story-telling.
Voss.....is just really a big nothing...you go there to clean cantinas and take out the trash...i mean thats what the strongest person in the galaxy and a experienced war leader does right?? Right?? One voss prophecy that reveals ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...So...you go there...for nothing...great story telling i must say...
Kessan's Landing...at least here there is some resemblance of a plot...but so short, it feels nothing was accomplished. And this is the story....for 2 years... So wrapping it up. The PC feels not only weak, but going to places without purpose, doing the lowliest of soldiers work, is all of a sudden non-important. No meaningful relationship with your faction leadership...what are the emperor/empress and republic senate chanselor doing??? Where are the Jedi Order...the Dark Council...we are dealing with some nobodies instead of them...Malgus plan is illogical and incoherent, Mandos = trash plot, no interesting character...no notable characters really... The PC is being painted in a stupid incompetent light, being literally a peon, negating: years and years of dealing with the worst threats and strongest enemies in the galaxy, actually taking part in politics, and leading for years, building a power base from nothing.
And all for 1 hour of story for 2 years...this is incredible. I have forgotten what decision my alts made, how i wanted to roleplay them, how i wanted to headcannon their choices and why...because nothing is happening with the story. Saboteur option is going nowhere. Romances - going nowhere, never mentioned again.
I can literally go to google, and write - Star Wars OLD Republic fan fiction and just find better story-telling than this...I would bet real money that most of the players here can think of a better story than what 7.0.I have absolutely no idea how those people here are allowed to destroy this IP so bad.
Someone should hire this game's leadership and writers and rewrite the movies and make Palpatine and Vader go themselves but all alone of course and deal with every random resistance cell on every planet. I mean...yeah...why waste time actually ruling, grand scheming and dealing with serious threats....when they can go to nar shadaa and be the best cantina cleaners there is.-
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On 2/1/2024 at 6:43 AM, eabevella said:
I don't really want to blame the writers of post 7.0 story, I think they did what they can with so little materials that have to be dragged on for years. The Heta/Malgus plot feels like it should only be a couple of planets and a couple of flashpoints worth length-wise, but the writers are forced to cut the already small story into even smaller bits so that the higher up can pretend they are delivering the promise of "continuing to make contents" when I suspect they never plan on adding new budgets into making actual new story back when they announced the "exciting 10th year anniversary". Kind of funny when you realized they put apparently some real $$$ to make that new promotional cinema. It's very well made, I'll give them that, but now it just looks like a very expensive bait.
Oh....I dont know about that. The 7.0 plot is an incoherent mess. There is absolutely no logic and no purpose to the PC actions, the world building, plot advancement....anything. I bet some of the players of the game could write a better story than 7.0 is... To be fair the 6.0 story wasnt much better, but at least it had some pacing, some feeling of purposefulness to the players actions, some kind of you know....real plot...and not running around doing nothing of note...going to planets for plots that have no connection to each other...none at all.
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Not only is the story small, it is also an incoherent mess. Without any purpose, world building, immersion and generally what makes Star Wars verse great. 7.0 story was the worst thing i have ever witnessed from a game...the worst...it does not advance the plot...it paints the PC in a stupid light, far from the strongest in the galaxy and a military/political leader...instead the PC is just a peon who goes to clean the cantina, take out the garbage, go alone like a coward to sneak to his enemies....like what the hell is this....
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I would welcome anything after this boring and plain and quite frankly incoherent mess of a story after Echoes of Oblivion. I quite liked Vaylin TBH. But i suspect such things are beyond the skill-set of people who think the most powerful being in the galaxy is perfectly normal to prioritize cleaning cantinas, taking out the trash, fighting random droids and soldier, making decisions that have no point whatsoever...
Date Night: What do you think about them?
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Posted · Edited by ExarSun
Lets face it. Arcann and Koth are on this Date Night only because "yass queen" "people" in charge of these decisions have a thing for them....its laughable that they...instead of Kira, Vette, Azshara, etc...are the first companions for the 30 seconds cutscenes... It annoyed me, until i saw those ridiculous and short conversations and cutscenes of 1,2 minutes....nothing noteworthy about this date night for me to cross fingers when will Kira and the other be available for it.