Thanks so much you guys are a lot better at explaining than anyone else Ive talked to. Last question, theres no way to take the augmentation kit out (reverse engineer etc) is there? Or should I just take the crystal out, cut my losses and sell the 'green item' saber for a fraction of what the aug. kit cost. I didn't realise that you could upgrade that much about the orange weapons, at least I know now! Thats cool you can use them all the way through. thanks again!!