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  1. I just recently finished the Jedi Consular storyline. After playing through the romance with Iresso, I learned that he actually has a sith holocron imprinted into his brain. Unless I clicked the wrong options, once you find that out, it doesn't actually go anywhere. This feels like a missed opportunity for what could have been a pretty interesting story.

     

    Anyone else feel this way, or have similar experiences?

  2. I made a post about this on another forum, and I think it's relevant here.

     

    In general, starwars tends to portray force users being in charge by virtue of being force users to be a bad thing. While a force user is capable of the same things as a non-force user, plus having the force on top of that, it opens up it's own problems, as the Voss example shows.

     

    Also, there's the sith empire from The Old Republic. One notable thing, is that when you flirt with non-sith as a sith, they often become nervous or afraid. This is revealed to be because non-force-sensitives have no rights in relation to force users in the Sith Empire. Even the lowest, weakest sith, still outranks the highest ranking non-force-sensitive person. As a sith you can (and often have the option to) harm or kill non-force-sensitives, and face no official repercussions from the act.

     

    The sith empire is ruled by the Sith Emporor Darth Vitiate, though he interacts rarely, and most of the day to day running of things is handled by the Dark Council (all sith). As the sith are institutionally considered superior to non sith, they have no obligation to be fair or even kind to their subordinates.

     

    Also, the sith empire is racist, with sith purebloods first, humans second, and everyone else a distant tenth. (Though not all sith subscibe to this. Your sith can be any of the playable species, and notably Darth Malgus consideres the empires racism to be a weakness, and is more egalitarian in his chain of command).

     

    TV Tropes has a good desciption of it:

     

    When playing as a Sith, regardless of gender, every time you choose the flirt dialog option with non-Sith Imperial NPCs, there is a good chance that they will, at best, politely say thanks then quickly change the topic, get nervous and start stuttering, or totally freak out. While this might seem funny from your perspective, the deeper implication of why they act this way is highly disturbing. Remember that in Imperial society, all non-Force sensitives are institutionally subservient to what basically amounts to a hereditary caste of super-powered sociopaths who have a legal right to abuse and kill citizens for whatever reason they can think of. Then remember that Sith are encouraged to fully embrace their emotions without self-limit.... If your dark sided Sith decided that he/she takes a liking to a non-Force-sensitive Imperial, you can force yourself onto them regardless of their say on the matter, then cut them in half after you're done just because you feel like it. And there is ABSOLUTELY nothing that they or their families can do about it!
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    EDIT: Additionally, there's the Eternal Empire from the Knights of a Fallen Empire expansion, where it's people essentially worship the (force-sensitive) royal family, and are led to believe that force-sensitivity means your the Emperor's chosen and your powers come from worship of them.

    Original Thread Link: http://www.tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=56623&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

  3. Remember that the empire was completely isolated until it invaded the republic at the start of the trailers. As in, the rest of the Galaxy wasn't aware of the empire until it captured Korriban. Also, the Emperor is essentially revered as a god among his people up until Ziost and they've probably been indoctrinated in it's culture since birth, led to believe that the republic and aliens are the enemy's of a stable society.

     

    A comparison could be made to Nazi Germany. For most of the time the Nazi's were in power, the people willfully ignored their atrocities and racism until the cognitive dissonance grew too high or were too intimidated to speak out against them (people were encouraged to tattle on their peers). It's not an out of the blue comparison either. The Galactic Empire and First Order are basically space Nazi's.

     

    In regards to the sith and other supporters, a comparison could be made to the Nazi leadership. There were Nazi leaders who did confess that they didn't believe in the whole master race ideology and only went along with it for their career and profit. I'm willing to bet that many sith simply don't care about the empire beyond what it can do for them. They all want power, and only support the system because it's the best path to power available to most of them. Which since the Sith are power-hungry personified, leads to tons of infighting, backstabbing, betrayal and assassination. The implication is that Sith society is only barely holding itself together.

     

    In the Book of Sith, Mace Windu actually deconstructs the whole "rule by strength" concept:

     

    This system is only attractive for the kings. Those beneath them waste their gifts as slaves or pursue the narrow-minded goal of becoming kings themselves. Creativity and industriousness blossom under an open and free system like the Galactic Republic and those qualities inevitably triumph over the monomania of a dictator.
  4. So I liked Iokath. It's nice to have some Sci-Fi stuff in starwars, and the entire world is an interesting concept, though I think it was underutilized and too short. I'd love to learn more about it (even the lore wasn't enough). Are there any plans to do something more with it in later installments?
  5. I have several headcannons, mostly based around a fanfic im planning.

     

    My Jedi Consular comes from a very low tech planet (like iron age technology at best) and while very strong in the force (all her people are) is almost completely technology illiterate, though it does get better with time. There were unfortunately some sith ruins on her world, prompting the empire to invade the world, taking the people in her hometown captive to experiment on while she was out hunting. When she went after them she was almost killed only to be rescued by a group of Jedi, one of whom she became a padawan to (the jedi knight guardian). She also became friends with another Jedi Knight (a sentinel) around the same age and the two went on several missions together. The sentinel was however dissillusioned with the jedi order (she grew up on narshadaa as a pickpocket/thief before being brought in, and wasn't very strong in the force to begin with, only barely enough to not get reassigned) and actually leaves the order, and becomes a bounty hunter later. The Consular eventually develops a romance with a trooper medic.

     

    My Sith Warrior and Sith Inquisitor (sorcerer and main) are "friends". The Sith Warrior comes from a very successful and powerful family of sith (they have a manor/compound on ziost) and she's very skilled even from the beginning, already having a lightsaber and force skills before setting foot on korriban. She met the inquisitor on Korriban and decided to take her under her wing (reluctantly on the inquisitor's part, as the warriors darkside and she becomes light side). The inquisitor sticks around mostly out of fear at first but gradually goes her own way as she gets stronger. She sees the warrior, a complete sociopath and extreme sadist, as everything wrong with the empire. The inquisitor starts out as a reluctant dark side, and then changes to light side (shortly after finding the tomb of the light side sith in the dark temple actually). The inquisitor has the goal of transforming the empire and the sith (she agrees with the philosophy of embracing passions, though not the backstabbing and hatred parts). She develops a romance with ashara actually.

     

    The jedi and sith actually meet up and start working together around the time of the dread war, and especially shadow of revan. The inquisitor becomes the outlander, though the other characters do help out (to varying degrees).

  6. As to Vaylin being redeemable, her wanting to be redeemed is irrelevant. With all the psychological damage, it's highly unlikely that she would ever consent to it herself, regardless of whether your in combat or not.

     

    The comparison would be a real life crazy person. They're so broken that they're incapable of seeing that their broken, and thus will not seek out any psychological help. They're a danger to themself and others. At that point, were fully justified in locking them away in an psych ward (a good one, not that ******** on nathema) and forcing therapy on them regardless of their consent.

     

    Where it gets different is that with a normal person, they can be restrained. Vaylin has the force and is exceptionally strong with it, and is also leading armies in conquest and destruction. So killing her, while unfortunate, is justifiable to even a jedi. She's not beyond redemption, but considering the situation, it would be foolish to try.

     

    (For the record, I hope she sticks around as a ghost for a while so you can actually help her get better before passing on).

  7. So, I'm playing Sith Warrior and I'm on the quest, The Final Trial. It's bugged in some way. After I defeat vemrin, I'm given 3 options (two to kill him, or one to spare him). No matter which option I pick, the quest bugs. Sometimes the resulting dialog gets said, sometimes not, but no matter what, the characters just stand there doing nothing. All I can do is ESC out of the conversation, and start over, to the same effect.

     

    Is there anything I can do to make this work, or is this a bug that needs to be fixed?

  8. So, I'm playing Sith Warrior and I'm on the quest, The Final Trial. It's bugged in some way. After I defeat vemrin, I'm given 3 options (two to kill him, or one to spare him). No matter which option I pick, the quest bugs. Sometimes the resulting dialog gets said, sometimes not, but no matter what, the characters just stand there doing nothing. All I can do is ESC out of the conversation, and start over, to the same effect.

     

    Is there anything I can do to make this work, or is this a bug that needs to be fixed?

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