That would be awsome . Ill talk to the guys from black squadron and see what i can do about getting a team togther most of us can play there and have toons allrdy to go . Need to know what time to tell them

Sound good I have to redownload test server again .I ended up getting the patch bug today and had to completely restore my system to a earlier point and reinstall swtor . Which was crazy

Only Reason for not having stuff and junk and space debris on a battle field. Is for scouts and gunships to have clean fire path. scous evade everything in sight blaster wise and break every missile lock attempt out there. Give other ships such as the slower strike's a chance other wise you might aswell remove them from the game. I play all the ship types out right now and you got (long range better have prema boost or a drone and mine or your dead aka the strike fighter's). everyone can say what they want and how out there fine but we all know the missile based strike need shorter lock on time's. Heck even the supposedly slow firing rail guns can fire every 1 seconds and scout's out chase out damage and blow everything up a gun sip does not. Give the Pike and Quell a reason to be flown to make them as powerfull in there givin field of expertise.Right now it is not there. Debris only make it even worse so they need a abilty like blaster over charge that over charge's missile lock timer, once evey 60 secs. I know that is a bit off topic too but debrie is really what the strike's have going for them to get a break to recharge engine's and shield's don't take it away or just remove every ship type out and make them all gunship's. That's what were heading towards anyways gunship's and bomber's

OK I have check the customer service area and I have tried running fix launcher and a few other things and now it is stuck at the innital starting saying installing but no progress or anything eles have been waiting 20 mins on any kind of movement and nothing anyone have any ideads

If you do iced holler at us we could jump over with you are try to get a game going

Is the patcher down atm have been looking on the boards for maintince schedule but haven't found anything and im stuck at 97.94% complete ofa small patch

that is a fact as th op said you get a big target

honesty there is not much any one can do other then try to take it easy on the new pilots and fresh ships. My guild has even went so far as to try to call everyone in the match's over to 1 control point or stay in the middle of a death match but there is not a lot you can do about pugs in a match and most the times it is the pugs and newbies on a team of vets thatmakes it worse because the vets will eventully pull off and back to the point or stay centrally located close to team for support you get more req from fending and to behone the amount that differs from and win and a loss is not that great maybe 100-200 req and over the coarse of a ships time to master it isn't that big of a deal you get more req from attacking and defending a point so if your in a dom match up and on new ships and being owned if you see 6-8 ships at one point that means they are giving you theother two don't go over there expecting to kill some one 1 on 6 go cap the sat that they laid out for you to gain req on by caping and defending new players have to use some sense too not just the vets so it al cant be blamed on vets we where new once too you know and got killed a lot I got around 4000 deaths how many you new players got a 100-400 also have over 2000 matches played with well over 1200 wins now it takes time

You have to find a play style that fits you as far as a ship goes. IF you track fast and like to hit hard go with the sting/flash. You want a all around ship that is ok go with a strike. if you want stand offish till you figure it out ship go with a gun ship for the range. If you want easy to fly tank style go with the legion/warcarrier allways use your power shift to adjust power to where you want it when firing laser's shift power to weps . when being attacked power to shields. when boosting power to engines. your crew set up controls a lot of your smaller details which make drastic changes in your ships performance. read read read everything closely and ask question to experienced pilots not other newbies. as far as load out for ship components and load outs it is depend on what you are flying, how you fly and what you want to do with it. take time to fly off some where on the map into a corner and practice a maneuver .Instead of being cannon fodder. The absolute number one rule is to try to have fun and be inventive in your flying style and attack pattern's Heavy laser's if oru ship can equip them and allways use armor penetration on every wepon you can put it on in upgrades. Burst or quads on fash/sting Ion aoe rail gun and slug on gunship ion/heavy's on the standard strike's and rest is usually up for debate

LOL SUICIDE go ahead and suicide and for the poster who says deny them req you get the req regard less if they are killed or cide.All that does is stop the kb count but it doesn't stop it for long if they have to use a method like that to stop some one fom killin them. Blowing up due to lag or a misjudged barrel or retro or something like that is one thing.Plain out right suicideing is just a joke and only hurts there team they may have had a wing man behind them kill the guy attacing them at the last second and bam therewould have been a point to the good. and not to the bad. if you going to suicide just exit the battle ad don't cost your team the game because of cowardly behavior. we can win with out you suicideing but don't hurt your side even more then it allrdy is.

All I can say is to find some people who play gsf aswell. Start a group a good 4 man group can overcome a lot of the newies out there that have no idea . I know that isn't the answer a lot of people want to hear but as a person who plays both side and loves all gsf imp and yes my pub. The best thing you could do is fly with a squad that is what it is desgined around . Not all players are kb getters some of us run stuff like wing man buff and the evade buff and other stuff. Way to many people are building ships to b killers but seem to forget this is a team sport. A squad with balanced ships to support each other goes farther then every one in a gunship or a bomber and all runin crit builds or single person evade build . It is team work that wins these matchs and cap cap cap and defend with your bombers to the point of the die I run back I die I run back don't give up. @ people distract wile other's fast cap . It all comes down to team work not nesacerily what anyone person is doing wrong . It is hard I know it is. I started out in gsf by myself and I met 1 person we started playing together regularly.Then we met another person named larica and then andragaurd and next thing you know we had a squad. Then we had a guild of like minded people to fly with and talk to and work out builds and timing of abiltys just like pve rotation of your styles and spells. we where beaten so many imes early on no doubt about it we had a lot of loss's. Eventually we got better as a whole and it showed and we started wining 50% of the time even aginst very and I do mean very good impire pilots shout out to toe and kegger and all the member's that made up death squadron. so with a lot of deaths and a lot of practice we are now the force that death squadron has become . It all goes back to team work though and it's the same for al good gsf guild's and squads out there. yea we get harassed in gen chat for trying to talk to people about gsf some times. but in order for you to get better. You have to be with like minded and to be honest people who are intristed in what you are. Flying solo is ok and some maybe great at it or better then others in gsf guild's. At the end of the day the match is about a win and to have fun and enjoy it. So I say to answer your question what are you doing wrong the answer is simple find a squad or make one.

yea id defintly like to try the imp versions out too but e will have to do like what we did last night and al be on the same side to do it lol. It like trying to shoot with spit ball's for blaster's lol with those babys

If your having a hard time getting your laseser on something accuracy wise try out heavy lasers on a strike they have the best range and acc. They are also very new pilot friendly till u you get use to flying around . Something els to keep in mind at this point weve had mths to hone our piloting skills.So be patient and hang in there and it will reward you the first time you take down a enemy. took me around 2 days before I would even concider how I flew on the pts the first time a novice . and with a lot of practice mind you ive got in the area of 2000 matches played at this point acros the game servers .I try to learn a new maneuver all the time and im allways finding new ways to duck dodge and get under cover . Straff is your friend and I recommend getting use to it and using it inyour flight style early on so you can be good at it one day.Other then that its just time and know how .

Well i'd just like to say thanx to the folks who came out to the test server and helped us get 2 matchs on the new ships.We got a dom and a death match and it was crazy fun . Some of the longest flying around ever and the most fun ive had in a long time. For those who didn't get to make it the new ships are defintly something different and takes a bit to get use too. I hope you enjoy them when you get them on live as much as I enjoyed testing them . They were fun but defintly have to have loadouts changed up a bit and tweeked to your playstyles but fun never the less. We had 2 ops group's of 8 each testing on the pts and got 2 pops and had a great time. Some very very good test pilots I must add and you are all ace's in my book and have a open invite to fly with black squadron on pot 5 and pts anytime. Thanx again you guys and gals

veron char opy pubs we dng testing on pub sde going to do pub v pub

Ill switch to desern and see if wecan get some 8 mans

We are currenty on the pts awaiting players o cme inand test new shipswe areo complete bay un upgade ships guys come on and try these ot and the new map

as long as you mae the match que ill do a couple of power dives for ya into one o two I still think some one need to put the astoids on te aces list

OK guys and gals this is a call out . We are goings to try this again tonight at 8 pm est on the pts. I'd like to formally invite anyone an everyone to come play with us tonight . This is not about wining or loseing tonight or a whos better cmp. Just a chance to actually test these things's out and check out the new map, which I hear is different game mode. So please if you are intristed come out and help out .We as a community are the only ones that can hold ourselves back. Lets take this opperituneity to get a early look at whats to come for our beloved GSF. So if you are a guild o a different server and you would like a chance to fly with some of the best pilots from across all of the servers and a chance to disscuss all things gsf tonight. Come n over and let's chck it out . We cant do it alone and for some unknown reason thse die hard ground pvpers and oper's that cant fly refuse to que up for us to try it. So I ask you GSF pilots alike to come out tonight and to tell all of your friends tonight is the night to come play, with like minded people.You willnot be shuned because you are imp or pub you will be accepted because you are Pilot

Well as of late I've been playing my imp toon more and more and Black squad is made up of good friends that enjoy playing which is great because we do end up fighting ourselves a lot more then you would think. We get a lot of pub on pub action which is fine I don't mind . We just enjoy the hard fights those easy give me fights with new pilots comeing in we usually try to let them have 1-2 points though out the match but some of the other pub newbs take it upon them selves to let there peon show how big they are at times which I dont agree with .I honestly feel like if we don't give them a chance to learn te game and get some upgrades on there ships then we wont have a population base to play with . Look at all the negativeity in gen chat when you pop onto a difrent server and try to get people into it which we do on a regular bases. most of us play all over the servers but pot-5 is our home because it has the best matches on both side's. We do group a lot even run 8 people in a ops style at times but when we do that we end up fighting ourselves 70% of the time.If we get a pop and the other group don't we still take it and we never ever ever back out of a match because there is a premade in it on the other side and we know it is going to be hard. We also que up solo and in duo's we have around 10-13 pilots and friends on at various times and anyone who has flown with us or does . Know we do try to give newbies a chance and we do fly for the fun of it.

I will try to get our guildies on again tonight around 8 pm est.That should be prim time for more of us I think.

Yea had a guildie download the patch too to test to find out he couldn't log in. YEa 4v4 for testing purpose's. Oft be a Meat bag some where eles man reported you as spam on pts and ill do the same here some of us actually enjoy this game and the mini games as you called it. Your just upset because you suck at it so bad your 13 year sister is better then you .

Just wanted to say it is another let down. another open pts to actually try out the 2 new ships and a map.To see if there are any bugs and what the ships are going to do . Yet no one show's up to do it . We had black squadron with 8 people on it from 2 pm est till 4 pm est and I just checked it again and nothing except 40 people testing df . It amazes me that people will go spend hours on a op for a chance at a piece of gear on a test server and to see one the one change to the boss was but no one will show up to test out 2 ships and a map. Wile waiting and yes I was waiting had to listen to bs from the non gsf pilots who cant fly in the first place wine about how bad gsf is. Well here is the best fix of all BW. Give us 4 man death matchs like arena's in ground wz's and give us a ranked que system to keep the real pilots away from the newbs and the babie's . Playing a match you know even if here is 4-6 on a single person you are going to win even if you give them all the control points. Is not any fun If you want us to test something out for gsf then your going to have to make it so we can other wse it is a wine fest aginst us for playing what we enjoy . GIVE US 4 MAN MATCH"S and we would be happy to test out your new stuff before it launch's

We will have a few Black Squadron on today starting at around 2 pm est. I'm still patching lol I need to quite playing long enough to patch at one time .

As a experienced missile boat user with (6750 protorp's) and (275 various others) fired. The big thing is lag, where it shows him in range for example is not always the case. Took me awile to understand to. So times your comp due to latancy dose not show you hit til afte you've allrdy been hit by the missile in which case you've wasted the breaker. Sometime's your are allrdy out of range when he is trying to lock on wile you are showing in range as well. Missile locking is a lot better then it use to be but is still hard at time to do. Say you are being tracked by a pike for example common practice is to lock you at max range 11.5km as you are approaching which makes it hard for you to get out of the arc with the comp bonus. Then he fire's a conc missile aswell. You try to break missile lock. The missle lock break's the most recent lock (the Conc) and the protorp still hits. The answer to the problem is running with a scout with emp field rank 4 for the 3 sec's of none lock abilty not only does it break a lock but also is only thing to make user and 2 other immune to missle lock for 3 secs so very usefull. That isn't being utilized wel yet though because most people don't understand that with team work and a verity of builds you can over come most premades. Everyone wants to be the killer and sometime's you get the kill but more then not the kills are tallied by the guy who got the last shot anyways. It's not the guy with the most kills you got to worry about all the time some times you can be support and make the difference because hes the one who makes or break a hard battle. Which none of us have seen in awile unless its aginst our ownself's or the astroid's.