Couple of things, your 'playstyle' seems to be the whine on foruns but not do anything about it style. Point where in my post where I said I was opposed to premade vs premade queues? You cant because I never mentioned it, what I did so though was my opinion that in the current system the best option is for people to seek to group. And no premades did not stagnate pvp as you claim, tigmajority would say it was the removal of 8 man ranked ether with class balance issues that did the most damage. The scene was actaully doing pretty well up to that point. But I guess you wouldnt know this since you dont group and yet claim to know about our motives. Just for the record, I fully support a premade vs premade only queue but that is unlikely to happen, after all they removed the 8v8 ranked that was keeping that alive and 4v4 ranked is terrible. So again I am trying to give advice to deal with an imperfect system, dont like queuing solo then grouo. I will group with anyone who asks. But I suppose I could just do what you do and go on forums and complain about pugs ruining my premade wz experience since more often than not tberes 4 pugs with us. First time on forums snark you very much Other option is obvious isn't it? besides not queing at all I understand that could be a reason maybe a bigger one then I realize Last two in red MOTIVE is again obvious isn't it? Grouping will only prolong the problem, not solve it. I see the same thing happening on the shadowlands last couple months that I saw on the bastion. Due to whatever reasons better players are grouping up controlling wzs. Pugs get frustrated and after enough farming quit queing or try to make your "groups". Better groups eat the other groups then they quit queing or unsub or play another game. Now your getting into try-hard country where the best groups start eating the better groups until those groups quit queing,unsub, or play another game. I present RANKED as exhibit A. All I want is to que up with pugs to have a part of the game that isn't scripted one button pushing mind numbing pve experience. But to go into one wz after another just to get roflstomped by a bunch of people that think somehow their epeen status looks great on a job application ill do what countless others have done and quit queing,unsub, or play something else.