I'm just a little upset about many people in my guild trading wins for 7 hours and not getting banned. They are even talking about it in guild chat about how they beat the system. *** Bioware.

NO. Just NO.

I really would like dipstik or keyboardninja to attempt to re graph the charts without DP to see how we stack up against the others. Possibly one half time or most time if possible as well.

With shock being a 6 second c/d and wither being a 9 second c/d and DP being a 12 second buff; is DP designed to fall off at one time or another? With this rotation to keep up the DP as much as possible it was still falling off for me: Shock +1.5 GCD - 1.5s total Wither +1.5 GCD - 3s total Discharge +1.5 GCD - 4.5s total Thrash (proc energize) +1.5 GCD - 6s total Shock +1.5 GCD - 7.5s total Force Lightning +3s channel -time reset Wither +1.5 GCD - 1.5s total Discharge +1.5 GCD - 3s total Shock +1.5 GCD - 4.5s total Thrash (proc energize) +1.5 GCD - 6s total (with proc) Shock +1.5 GCD -7.5s total (without proc) Discharge +1.5 GCD - 9s total Shock +1.5 GCD - 10.5s total Force Lightning +3s channel -time reset This only allows for 1.5 second variance on the second rotation IF NOTHING HAPPENS. If you have to move, get stunned, force pull something off someone, etc. then it falls off. That is also expecting PERFECT rotation times (something Tor-parse shows is damn near impossible). Am I doing something horrendously wrong or was it expected to be falling off at times during design?

If you are pulling aggro off of a tank, your tank is garbage. Find a new tank. For the little adds; if your tank can't pick them up off of you, your tank is garbage. Find a new tank. Worried about getting hit as a healer in a raid? Kite the adds to the tank for his convenience. All in all. Either find a better tank or L2P.

My issue is that when they "fixed" the relic, it only provides a 1 time reduction of the damage and not an absorb shield that reduces x amount during the 6 seconds. I bought the relic because I am an assassin tank before I knew it was broken. With the new change they just implemented, it is complete garbage. The other proc relics that increase my shield or absorb will have such a higher effect and proc every 20 seconds.

Has anyone experienced been able to parse this yet? I really want to give sins a decent chance of becoming raid viable.

I have looked at this build for a while now as a straight PVE Boss DPS build. I have parsed it about 100 DPS higher than the stock deception build. I am not a DPS sin by trade and would like someone who is more experienced in Deception DPS to try it out. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200dI0sb0cZfdcRkGbMZc.3 The priority list would be as follows: 1: Assassinate 2: Maul 3: Discharge w/ 3 stacks 4: Shock w/ proc 5: Saber Strikes

I experienced the same issue. I even got it bugged out to include 4 pets with 4 people in the instance. I really would appreciate a workaround to finish the chain.

I am still looking for The Bulwark from Kaon, but haven't seen it drop. Is there another aesthetically similar one that is still attainable?