Well i do start out my fights that way sometimes maybe that's why i felt like my damage was lacking and i tried switching to carnage and i noticed i actually killed the stronger mobs faster compared to when i was using Anni but ill switch back and forth a few times and test out how it goes. Thanks for the info on Annihilation though.

I've read quite a lot of guides and looking into the builds myself but i just cant really find out which one would be better. I use Quinn, I have all my gear customized with Might mods/Rage enhancements (currently Anni specced) and I gotta say I cant really see a difference unless I am just missing it entirely specifically with the Carnage tree. Can any one explain to me how useful Ataru form is, how often it can proc a second hit and if its got a noticeable amount of dps compared to Anni? Thanks if you help in advance and sorry if this post seems kind of everywhere, writing it with no sleep at 7am.