So Nibbon what are your thoughts on the power proc and power click relic. I already have the Underworld power proc and am still using DG clicky and I like the feel of it. Is this that far behind the 2 procs or damage proc/power clicky?

Hey Nibbon, appreciate all of the information. The two proc relics do work together, one of my guildmates has tested this. So what you are saying is that the power and damage proc are better, but the power click may be better depending on the situation?

This thread should be killed once 2.0 hits for everyone, and if he doesn't mind, the creator of this one can start a new one.

Disregard this post, I'm stupid, just wanted to make sure my Sage post was here, i thought it got deleted for some reason. please update leaderboard with post #140 when you get a chance.

Jongom- http://www.torparse.com/a/167190/time/1363713732/1363714126/0/Overview 1807.82 DPS 1/12/28

If you want to challenge yourself DPS-wise, roll a shadow. Hitting high numbers on a Sentinal is easy. On my Shadow, who has been all the way to NIM Kephiss, in an actual boss fight, I am never at the bottom of the DPS list, and am usually in the top 2.

Here is the link to the Shadow/Assassin video. Just had to take a look at the channel.

First of all, you should enter the fight while stealthed (not sure if you did that or not). Secondly, you should start the fight with force breach and use force breach on every cooldown, that should help a bit.

Daft I think what people are trying to say is that you can't come in here and make claims like that without backing it up with parses. I can say that I get 2200 DPS just by constantly spamming DS (an extreme example, but an example nonetheless), but nobody will believe me unless I show proof.

I made a thread about the 0/18/28 build about a day, day and a half ago, and it definitely felt better than full balance. I did some testing today, and it looks like full Infiltration parses higher than all so far. Feels a lot easier on force regeneration too. Here is the thread I created on a 0/18/28 build.

So, still doing a little more testing today, got the main rotations down for infiltration and balance specs. It looks like an infiltration spec is doing the best over a 5 or so minute parse, kinda surprised. My you need to jump on man, need another competent shadow to test with.

Just to be clear I'm talking about the 0-18-28 build I mentioned in the OP. How is that much different threat wise from a full balance or full infiltration?

How is it insane and not viable? It would help if you explained why you think that, without even testing on PTS. Also, i do not know how to change the title of the thread, which is why i changed the OP.

Hey guys if at all possible can we try and contain this to PVE DPS, not PVP? Just trying to get people's thoughts on the best sustained dps with the new patch. Thanks

Yeah sorry about that, forgot to say this is for PVE. I tried straight balance and it looked like it was parsing lower (only did 2-3 for each spec though). So i tried to find the best way to get that SS back and we get the force regen of the Infiltration tree also.

This is more of a Balance heavy hybrid. Don't usually use project with Balance, so that doesnt matter. The main thing im trying to achieve is the SS proc and the extra force regeneration. If you can show me a tank-heavy hybrid doing higher dps, then I will gladly adopt it. Its not my job to be harder to kill, that's the healers job. Its my job to get the most dps as humanly possible out of the crap hand we were dealt.

I gave it 2-3 tries, as many as i gave this one, it looked like it parsed a little lower but i wouldn't mind getting together with you on one of our ships tonight and trying them out. The SS I think is a pretty solid part of our rotation, but idk.

Okay so I know that it is still early, but i did a little testing today on a new spec for 2.0 on the PTS. Any thoughts are welcomed, as this is just me screwing around trying to get around the screwing they gave us shadows. This is a hybrid spec. http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-calculator/jedi-shadow/234/?build=000000000000000000000000000000000322130200110030000000000000000003020322012200210122030000000000&ver=20 We can get our procced SS back, and we can also get the same force regen techniques that infiltration gets. We do miss out on the top 2 tiers of skills in the balance tree. I was able to do about 2260 dps over 6 minutes with this spec on the pts, with my Frankensteined gear that comes nowhere close to where my stats are regularly. Once again, any suggestions/comments are welcomed, this was just me screwing around on the pts. EDIT: This post is meant for PVE DPS. Not PVP or Shadow Tanking.

So i was just on there, and balance is absolutely terrible without the SS, we need that. I also tried Infiltration and i dont even know how to play the spec anymore, i used to use force breach on every cooldown, kinda hard to do now since there is no cooldown. I also used to open with it, impossible now. Both DPS rotations will have to be completely redone. I think shadows got the short end of the stick dps-wise

That is absolutely horse ****, it is going to bring down balance dps and now there is no use for SS, too much force.

I was not aware that we were losing our procced SS, I didn't see anything in the patch notes and i have not been on the PTS yet. If we are losing that, then it is definitely a problem.

Balance looks like it will be doing some more dps so that shouldnt be a problem. I havent been on there yet though. Doesnt look like alot is being done on balance except for sever force doing more damage

Balance looks like it will be doing some more dps so that shouldnt be a problem. I havent been on there yet though. Doesnt look like alot is being done on balance except for sever force doing more damage

Just a little bit of info, NEVER EVER use a mod/armoring/enhancement/implant/etc. that has higher endurance if there is one with a higher offensive stat. If you are having problems staying up it is most likely the healer/tanks fault, don't worry about endurance

http://www.torparse.com/a/134534/time/1361053736/1361054110/0/Overview Coming for you My lol, im gonna get some daily comms to get a clicky relic and see what i can do with it.