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Ugh, knowing she actually was aware that the outlander was alive when she started her fling with koth makes it harder to swallow. But on a side note, i think that both the lana/koth romance and our romance with any of them makes no sense at all and i think bw didnt make the best out of it. On one side we have lana, who could either be a romance prior to kotfe or be romanced in the middle of kotfe if she wasnt before, and she shows little to no care as to wath she had with koth, nor does she like to mention it in any possible way, she outright dismisses any question you make her regarding that matter, she does leave koth once she is more decided to rescue you, but why? she never speaks of it and koth only says that they did have something, was she using him? did she actually feel anything for him?, if she didnt care about koth, or if she only did it to feed on emotions born from that moment and/or seduce koth into cooperation, then she wouldnt have a problem saying "yeah, i shagged that guy while you where frozen, it was a way to gain his cooperation/relieve some stress from the situation,etc" but no, she wont say a word about it. We could compare her to kaliyo, who openly spends time with others while you are married with her, she doesnt care, she doesnt give a flying ****, you knew what you where getting into so man up and take it (also, its not like the Agent wouldnt do the same) On the other hand we have Koth, someone who seems to be on a rollercoaster of emotions, doing whatever comes into his mind and he feels its the right thing to do, im looking at you, quantum bomb that could have single handedly destroyed the frigging alliance base thanks to koth and his atachment to that piece of junk, still dont know how he could think that was a wise idea "never expected to have the fleet so close", frigging idiot seems to have forgotten that the gravestone sits in the middle of our base all the time. But going back to the matter at hand, koth (who seems to still be pretty atached to lana), doesnt even say "but" to a romance with the outlander, he goes from feeling jealous of a outlander+lana romance, to outward disregarding his feelings for her, i mean, dude seriously, if a guy/girl jumps at you while you have feelings for someone else, there is no need to just go on with it and say "fck it" to what you felt before, i dont understand how they (lana and koth) can be so bipolar on that matter. And no, just in case someone says that they are taking it as "mature" people do, they dont. They are obviously jealous of each other if the outlander picks one of them, they dont seem to have closure on the matter, nor do they wish to discuss it, the only reason as to why koth outright tells you that he did have something with Lana is because you provoked him and he knows he is a few feet away from death. Lana doesnt want to talk about it, outright feeling offended if you mention it or avoiding the question, but still feels jealous of koth if you chose him. Maybe im wrong and what i understand as being "mature" after a breakup is wrong, but i find it hard to believe that acting like children is actually the mature thing to do. I had to break up twice with two different girls, the first one was seeing someone else while we where together, and the other one was going back and forth with both me and another guy, so i decided to leave her and she had the gall to actually try and pursue a friendship with me, and thats what i see going on with lana and koth. Lana went behind your back, which i would actually accept if she atleast had the ovaries to come out and say it, and Koth seems to be that kind of guy who would break up with you but still pursue you in some way, thats why i actually expect to see if in another expansion we get to finally have a closure as to what is going on between them as i dont expect koth to just sit back and see Lana with another man/woman for long, and i dont expect to see lana being able to keep her emotions in check for long enough withouth it affecting her own performance (lets be honest, she would´ve outright killed anyone who did half of what Koth did), after all, we are on the star wars universe, where force sensitives feel in a whole different and more powerfull way.

Well, then you better not romance kaliyo, i think she actually "cheats" on you (you where married) like...what, 4-5 times? lol. In any case, thats what you should expect when you romance kaliyo, i expect that the same will happen with Doc, Jaesa, maybe Risha, Andronikos and maybe mako (she seems quite heartbroken in the mail she sends you), but that doesnt mean that i wont like them any less. Its normal, its natural, dont expect everyone to mourn your "death" for the rest of their lives, those who actually do might have some phychological problems (and im being serious on that last remark) I didnt expect it that much from lana...but then again, she is a sith. As a sidenote, its obvious why many people are angry at this...because she had to chose koth, of all the people in the galaxy to have a relationship with, she chose koth, i can hardly bring myself to create a toon who would romance him, and all i can come up with is a female smuggler who somehow finds koth attractive, disregarding most of his flaws conserning his complete stupidity, but liking how he is willing to go up against his former emperor and facing impossible odds for the sake of the galaxy.

Dunno, i mean, the server has a big pop (by swtor standars), but it shouldnt be enough to cause a server crash..and i think the exploit from the GC was already fixed, and those who used it punished, unless there is another exploit going around..at least this time they got the exploiters faster than other times..

If im not mistaken it was senya who told Lana where the outlander was, right?

Im actually having a hard time understanding whay your posts are about, are you...idk, calling everyone who lost something exploiters? Also, i dont know much about the bestia farm as i havent done it, but i hardly think that it is an exploit, i mean, everyone on general chat tries to get a group to farm Bestia, and if it is an exploit bw would have to ban like, half the server or something...and exploiters usually try not to...you know...let everyone know that they are exploiting lol

Easy or not, time is time, losing 1 or 2 230 pieces is not so bad (in fact i lost like 3, but it took me a while to notice xD), the problem is losing those hours if you where playing, in my case i played for the straight 6ish hours of rollback, meaning that i actually "didnt play" at all...and well..not everyone has the same credit making skills as you may have, it took me years to finally learn a way to make 15-20 mil a day with the gtn, and i mostly avoid it because i would have to grind over and over to make that money xD.

Damn thats bad, mostly the gc ranks...tho i havent seen this kind of thing happen before, i know that around mid 2015 the server had the same problem, and we still dont have an official reason as to why these 2 rollbacks happen at all...lets hope we dont get anymore rollbacks lol

Well ladies and gentlemen, since we are obviously not going to get anything back from the two rollbacks that afflicted our server, i think it would be a nice idea to vent some anger and frustration by just posting everything you lost, and laugh and point those who lost more than you did, and overall, have a good time. Well, since im the one posting this thread, i should be the first one to post what i lost: -10+ Mil creds (when i went to sleep i have more than 80 succesfull gtn sales, when i woke up it went down to 10, at least this time the items i put on the gtn are still there, sadly someone already undercut me) -3-4 gc ranks, along with 2 nonset pieces, and 4 schematics. -Bionalysis, first time it went from 300 to 84, and now from 600 to 300. -Conquest and wzs quest progress, 10kish conquest points and 5-6 wzs wins. I would count myself among the lucky few who didnt lose much, if it wasnt for the fact that i lost more than 6-7 hours that i spent on grinding, and that im not a gtn god that makes 10 mil creds every 2 hours, to me 10 mil is half of the maximun i ever had (not to mention that now with the inflation is almost impossible for someone like me to actually go and buy the sets from the new pack)

Doubt they are going to give anything to us for the rollback, some people lost millions of creds, other gc lvels, ranked rating, etc...i only lost the 3-4 hours of life that i spent doing some things like farming mats and selling them (obviously the mats dissapeared, didnt get them back)

Lana is a pragmatic person, just think about it: She got news that you and marr died (Arcann made it public), so she decided to go on with her life, after all, she is young, there is no reason to mourn a lost love that lasted no more than a few months (this considering the time you spent together, not the whole time between expansions)...but then she hears that you are alive, so she starts to make a rescue plan, and its obvious that she did it for two obvious reasons, you being the best hope to defeat the Eternal empire, and because she loves you, damn, she is even willing to forget about koth to be with you and thats what is important, Koth was a fling she had in a moment when the galaxy was burning, her lover died and she had to go underground again, no wonder that she decided to focus more on trying to supress fear through more pleasurable feelings (after all, even sith have to be carefull when using fear as their weapon). Also, relationships are way more complicated that what people try to make it, its never just "oh you died its obvious that she had to move on" or "omg she betrayed me", just think about this: You may not even be her first romance, so why care if she decided to look for someone else while she thought you where dead? i mean, she might have done the same when she started romancing our PCs on SoR, its not like her life started when she met us, dang, if she really loved someone else before us she might even still love him/her, love is not something that goes away after breaking up (for any reasons, be it death, cheating, etc), and she shows that when she decides to stay with us, even after years of separation and with another man in the middle, after all, she could´ve just decided to rescue us but stay in a relationship with koth (tho i dont think players would´ve been happy with that, just remember Jacob from ME)

Well, truth be told, i believe none of them is a perfect leader: Malgus knew how to gain loyalty, yet he was maybe too much of a revolutionary, going fully against the empire and all the Dark Council members, he should´ve at least tried to get one or two to side with him, his distrust of the Sith political games made him lose a fight that he might have won otherwise (both the republic and empire had to divert their efforts towards stopping him). A great warrior, a visionary and a leader, yet he has no political skills, he would get assasinated by his own subjects right after taking the throne (or would end up as a paranoid dictator locked on his own room out of fear) Marr on the other hand is more discrete towards making changes, while he also despises the way sith politics work, he is intelligent enough to avoid drawing too much attention like Malgus did, and actually tries to stay in good terms with the rest of the sith lords (as much as members of the dark council can actually tolerate each other). In contrast with the other two, Acina is actually an excelent schemer, while the rest of the dark council died or went into hiding, she managed to make herself empress and she actually saved the empire from falling apart, after all, with the dark council empty most sith would start to fight each other for the throne. But thats all we see of her, we dont see her being a military leader, actualy preffering a more subtle aproach, trying to use diplomacy to get things done and secure allies, she seems to be the most peacefull of the three, yet thats her weakness, as part of the siths value strenght above deception, and she would fin herself fighting against both those who are like her, and those who are not, in the end, she wouldnt have any allies from within her own empire, unless she starts rulling fully through fear, which we already know how that tends to end. So all in all (TL DR), none of them is perfect, they all have their own pros and cons, Malgus and Marr would end up losing the throne to the more scheming siths, while Acina would find herself having problems to control the sith long enough for them to win the war (considering what we have seen from her till now), none of them is Tenebrae, they arent inmortal, they dont have thousands of years of experience and the immense power that he possessed, they can be "easily" killed, they will die out of age (all this considering they dont pursue the same methods that Tenebrae used), and they simply dont emanate the same terror that he did. They would just be Emperors/Empress that have their own strenghts and weaknesses, and in a universe like the one from Star Wars, just being "powerfull" doesnt guarantee a long life, only those absurdly powerfull can hope to achieve what few others have.

I belive its pretty easy, remember that in KotFE, we send kaliyo and jorgan to cripple the eternal fleet, but they end up failing. With that, at least we know that the eternal throne is vulnerable, but then again, maybe destroying it would lead the eternal fleet in a rampage mode again. Either way, it could go as you said, they are droids, even if their techonology is vastly superior, there has to be some wreckage from when they atacked Coruscant/ Dromund Kaas, so it would make sense if both the republic and the empire are trying to reverse engineer what they can from it, and once that is done, they could probably find a way to cripple or outright destroy the ships with ease. Another thing, with us at the head of the throne, both the republic and empire wont have to keep sending tribute (which arcann and Vailyn might have used to repair the fleet), meaning that keeping the eternal fleet on top condition would be far beyond the capabilities of the alliance (i mean, it required the help of almost the entire galaxy after zakuul started invading both imps and pubs)

I dont know about vette, but torian literally surrenders to the encroaching forces, what i dont remember is if he did it when he saw vailyn coming

Not a bad idea, force users have been stealing the spotlight since SoR, Makeb actually worked really well with Trooper/Agent/Merc, Smug not so much in my opinion, and since it seems we are going to see the republic and the empire at war again, they could switch their attention towards those classes again. Buuuut we now have a ginormous ammount of power at our fingertips, so i dont know how we could yet again be brought to..."menial" conflicts. Unless Bw wants to strip us of our power, tho that would only keep dragging the plot over and over and over.