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With option 1 [2 X Conqueror relic of fortunate redoubt] do you have a 60% chance of a proc? i.e. does the 30% chance double? Description: On Hit: Incoming attacks have a 30% chance to grant 435 Defense Rating for 6 seconds. This effect can only occur once every 20 seconds. Does not stack with other Fortunate Redoubt effects

Ah, thanks for clarifying. p.s. An impressive array of toons you have!

Thanks for your input. Swapping relics is something I'll look into in the long term. Does anyone have any experience with stacking a PVE relic with a PVP relic?

Gentlemen, What are the BIS relics for a PVP immortal Jugg tank? I am also unclear as to the way the relics stack or don't stack . I have included some options below based on inspecting pvpers in WZ's: 1) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt X 2 2) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt and Conqueror Shrouded Crusader 3) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt and PARTISAN Fortunate Redoubt 4) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt and Elite War Hero Imperiling Serenity relic 5) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt and Dread Guard Imperiling Serenity proc relic Any other suggestions and observations would be most welcome. Thanks EDIT [ignore option 5]

If that is indeed you, then your certainly attractive, But I could never be with someone that keyboard turns....... And don't get me started on your back peddling

Gentlemen, What are the BIS relics for a PVP immortal Jugg tank? I am also unclear as to the way the relics stack or don't stack or whether PVE Proc relics Proc in PVP at all. I have included some options below: 1) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt and Conqueror Shrouded Crusader 2) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt and PARTISAN Fortunate Redoubt 3) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt and Elite War Hero Imperiling Serenity relic 4) Conqueror Fortunate Redoubt and Dread Guard Imperiling Serenity proc relic Any other suggestions and observations would be most welcome. Thanks

The following needs to happen: 1. season 1 rwz cross server [with world league ranking system i.e. best top ten guilds world wide] 2. season 1 intra server rwz [top ten guilds on each server] 3. season 1 pug wz 55 [[top 10 individual puggers [10 dps's, 10 heals, 10 tanks on a server]]

Also the lack of feel that we are at war with one another is another factor that I find frustrating. There is no global system for recording and presenting wins and losses for each side. I would love it if there were planet wide objectives, that if held by one faction for a period of time, a fleet wide announcement would occur on the opposite faction encouraging them to invade and take back the objectives. Vanity type awards would then be awarded to participants that successfully defended these objectives.

Absolutely. Currently I only PVP, and with no season one in-sight, no cross server queues, an ever dwindling pool of elite pvp guilds and players, broken bolster system, the "Star Wars" title is the only thing that is stopping me from throwing in the towel. I understand how difficult the Bolster metrics must be to calculate for programmers and developers so am willing to give them time to correct it. However bugs like the unavailability of the Imperial PVP daily is one that is pushing me closer to the door. It was the fact that we were told it was going to be fixed with an upcoming patch, but when 2.00a hit ----> no fix. We're then told upcoming does not mean next patch. Its these weasel words which sounds like politician speak that make me believe that it could be time to leave.

Anyone know any good websites I can look at to keep me entertained while we wait?

bump 5char

On a side note I craft three of the four classes of the pvp battlemaster armors and keep them up on the GTN. However they rarely sell. I feel that the interest is greatly overstated. I myself missed out on the centurion gear and would love to get hold of a set! Did they ever have crafting schematics for them?

We've reached a consensus that the CE vendor can be removed and that CE owners such as myself do not need unique/exclusive items to massage our epeen.

A great way to derail the thread by accusing the OP of being a troll thereby distracting from the original and well made point that the CE vendor should be removed entirely.