The funny thing is, I can handle a Smasher who isnt being buffed anb rebuffed with the bubble stun.

Stop, stop, stop. Just ignore this thread please. Whats this crap about dueling a bubble spec sorc. This thread is about bubble stun being spammed on everybody, is what i dont like. And yeah, I am in a guild and do some teamwork. Were average, nothing great or elite. This game shouldnt require extremely precise tactics to enjoy yourself. If so take out randoms and just make it all ranked WZ. Good for you if you've found an elite 8 man, with good coordination. You represent less the 1% of the player base.

Did you notice in my post how I mentioned there were teammates nearby? Who were also severely effected by the bubble stun chain reaction. Yeah i dont ever expect to win a 1v2 even though i have. Im all for the bubble on teammates without the stun. Keep the stun version just like it is, but self cast only.

Well this a good point, and when I do see one all my attention is focused on killing him. Which brings me to a point I didnt mention. These guys most of the time now are being guarded by 1-2 smashmonkeys. This is very smart teamwork. This combination of teamwork is unbeleivably overpowered. Picture this, i open up out of stealth with shoot 1st and immediately bubble stunned. No big deal. Over comes smashmonkey to help his buddy out. Oh crap I fight back and am bubble stunned again. Ok ill try my cc breaker this time. I fight some more, oh crap the bubble was reapplied. Im bubble stunned again. I have just stunlocked myself to death. Oh wait it wasnt just me there were teammates in the vicinity we were all stunlocked and someone opened the door to the zoo and let all the smashmonkeys out. End of story. Seriously though the smashmonkey thing is for another thread. Bubble stun is the key here. Make this dam thing a self cast. Quickly.

I'm actually pretty happy where Scrapper/Scoundrel is at right now. I realize why they made the nerfs. And also, dont mind stunlocking and being stunlocked its all part of the game. But this bubble stun is an aoe stun that happens very frequently against a good team. I've literally played against teams where I was either bubble stunned or dead half the match. I was penalized for using my opener against any of them really.

I'm not sure I'm following you on what your trying to say about the whole pocket healer thing. Smoke much pot? Yeah, and you are very correct about the teamwork thing. And it just so happens that if a team is good at coordinating there bubble stuns correctly, I would consider that very overpowered teamwork, and needs a nerf. Maybe come down a little from your high so can explain your other point.

I'm done with dude, your lost.

I'm glad you didn't take any time to read my original post. I want to cuss and write all kinds of bad things right now about you, but I'll try to control myself. Yes I too can handle a Sorc with static barrier, and I think it's a good skill for them, but for them only. It's when you have 3 Juggs, 3 Maras, and 2 Sorcs all running around with static barrier up. You see now? I'm a stealth class this doesn't bode well for me. Read my dam post.

Yeah, ok, lets just call this game Bubble Stun Wars then. At the same time eliminating stealth gameplay altogether. You don't get what I'm trying to say. My class spec is eliminated against a good team that keeps bubble stuns rolling. They might as well take the stealth mechanic and scrapper tree out of the game. I think it would be much easier for them to just make it a self-cast only though.

This is exactly what I wanted to see by starting this thread. I see I've pulled all the Sorc's and Sage bubble stun fanboys into this thread. And here we some evidence that it is indeed pissing people off. Keep the ability exactly as it is, but only make it a self-cast, end of story.

You must not play warzones much buddy. Me waiting around 20 seconds for a buff to wear off, wow. And I think your saying someting about teamwork in the same paragraph. Just think about it a little.

Wow, I certainly wasnt expecting such a dumb response. Why in the world should I have to wait for a teammate to open up for me. Secondly, now instead of me being pissed off, hes pissed off. So what your basically telling me is when I que for WZ I need to have a pocket Sniper follow me everywhere i go and break those bubbles. Think your posts out a little before you respond.

Look I'm a Scrapper/Scoundrel, I think you already know by reading the title how this is going to turn out. I would reallyl like to use a bunch of bad, bad four letter words I'm so frustrated. When I see a team coming out of the gate all buffed up with static barriers, heres what I do, /warzonequit. I wouldnt care if you let the Sorc keep the ability to just self cast, they are really squishy without it. But how in the hell do you justify this being able to be spammed on everybody. My shoot first opener is actually a curse as I am basically stunning myself by using it. Make this nerf quick people. Im losing my patience.

Look I'm a Scrapper/Scoundrel, I think you already know by reading the title how this is going to turn out. I would reallyl like to use a bunch of bad, bad four letter words I'm so frustrated. When I see a team coming out of the gate all buffed up with static barriers, heres what I do, /warzonequit. I wouldnt care if you let the Sorc keep the ability to just self cast, they are really squishy without it. But how in the hell do you justify this being able to be spammed on everybody. My shoot first opener is actually a curse as I am basically stunning myself by using it. Make this nerf quick people. Im losing my patience.

Hey I'm all for buffs too. Decrease Backblast CD hell yeah. Decrease Blaster Whip CD hell yeah. Give me more, give me more. I just realize why there so hesitant to do any of this, at least on the PVP end, not sure about PVE I dont do it. A fully geared and modded scrapper is a force to be reckoned with. BTW, I don't like your grenade idea with the knockback. My whole objective is to stay in as tight as I can to the enemy. Might be nice for Dirty FIghting.

Have I fought any level 50's huh. I was looking at my warzone stats, lets see close to 1000 wins, 40,000 kills, valor 96. So, yeah I have engaged in a couple fights with lvl 50's. I do recall being very frustrated with playing scrapper for a long time. It takes awhile to master, and also is a very gear dependant build. That's why every one goes and rolls a marauder because they can see results much quicker. Maybe one day I will post some videos. I'm not real savvy with youtube, ive never used it but to watch. But I have absolutely obliterated some Maras even caught out of stealth. Consider this chain of events. Mara enrages, licks his lips, and force leaps at me. Hes immediately hit with a flash bang. Then i put a Sab Charge on him, XS flyby, Vital Shot. Hes still incapacitated cuz VS doesnt tick right away and neither does XS. Dirty Kick comes next followed by Backblast and blaster whip. Then root him with Tendon Blast. Sucker punches follow up. The guys toasted and really didnt have a chance to do anything to me. Now it doesnt always play out like this depending on if he had his stunbreaker available. But I have pulled this off alot.

I don't see what the problem is fighting out of stealth. Basically when I engage someone out of stealth I consider it an even fight where either one of us can win. When I'm in stealth my targets in alot of trouble. And no, it doesn't matter if SF crits or not, it's still alot of damage right out of the gate my enemy somehow needs to re-balance. If you can't fight out of stealth then you obviously haven't been scrapper for very long. Make use of those Dirty Kicks and Flash Bangs, and the most under-rated skill has got to be the Tendon Blast with root. Tendon Blast and Back Blast are on a 12 sec CD for a reason. I pretty much guarentees a Back Blast every 12 secs. As far as your argument about SF+FR costing 35 energy, this is downright ridiculous and leads me to beleive your not very experienced. First off my SF only cost 17 energy. 17+15=32. Secondly if your dumb enough to wait to the very last second to load FR before SF, yeah that is a steep energy cost. That's why you load it well beforehand, so energy replenishes before you open up.

I have no idea what you mean OP. I have been scrapper for quite awhile and sometimes feel like I completely own in WZ's almost to the point it seems unfair how quick I can kill people. Im always at the top in damage and killing blows, and definitely solo kills. I am geared to the brim, so maybe thats the difference. Maybe elaborate a little more on what you think is wrong.

Hey, thanks, I get it now. Just a question ive always asked myself.

Yeah, thats great, reduces resistance. But how much resistance does the average player have in lvl50/PVP is what im trying to get at? And if a person does have, for example, a 10% resistance to a certain kind of attack, does this mean they have a 10% chance to completely negate the attack, or does it reduce the amount of damage of the attack by 10% always.

Yeah, thats great, reduces resistance. But how much resistance does the average player have in lvl50/PVP is what im trying to get at? And if a person does have, for example, a 10% resistance to a certain kind of attack, does this mean they have a 10% chance to completely negate the attack, or does it reduce the amount of damage of the attack by 10% always.

Seriously, I roll with no accuracy mods and have not noticed any tech attacks missing or being resisted. Unless someone uses an ability like force shroud of course. I understand how accuracy applies to quick shot and flurry of bolts which i rarely use. I just dont know how it applies to tech attacks, if it applies at all in PVP.

I don't think scrappers need to be fixed. If they received any more buffs i think they would be nearing an OP state again. Shoot 1st has got to be the best opener of any class if you consider the knockdown + fletchette round dot being applied. SF + FR does more damage then even smash if SF crits. You might say since FR is a 6 sec dot it doesnt count. But at the very minimum it takes 6 seconds to kill someone, so that dot should definitely be considered seeing how you didn't have to waste a GCD to get it.

I'm experiencing horrible lag spikes in warzones and just recently my comp crashed in one. These issues were not there at all before 1.3. Anybody else?

Wow 30% more damage. I'm going to have to try that. I just came off a match today with the hybrid, granted it was a bad imp team but still, I had 400k damage, 54 kills, 21 killing blows. I look at damage + killing blows for a successful build. This definetely has killing power, but 30% more dmg I can get if I go full? Wow. SRMP is nice though for the UH, but to tell you the truth when I'm engaged I'm in glass canon mode unloading everything I have. Thanks for the info about the bleeds too.