I used to play a while ago before the DPS Sage got nerfed to hell, and now a couple of my friends said it's getting better with some actually useful buffs. I was wondering if this is true, and to what extent? Namely: 1. Will TK Sage be laughed out of a competitive PvP group still, or are they a legitimate option currently? 2. Will TK Sage be laughed out of a competitive Raid group still, or are they a legitimate option currently? I'd really appreciate honest feedback on those two questions, thanks!

The entire reason I joined SWTOR many years ago was because I loved the force aspect of Star Wars. I've really only been serious or gotten to a high level with my sage and shadow, but my shadow doesn't have enough force techniques to make it fun for me. Coming back to this game after a year hiatus, and have they really nerfed the sage into oblivion? Is it truly as unviable in both PvE and PvP as people are making it out to be? I really don't want to believe this, but if that's the reality of the situation I'll just complete the new story missions and cancel my subscription again until the class is buffed. Also, does anyone have any idea when a new round of nerfs/buffs would happen? Any time frame would be appreciated so I know how long i'll have to wait for this.

I haven't played SWTOR in over a year and from what I can tell while skimming through the forums, a lot has changed. I just have a couple of questions that I hope can be answered truthfully, and I apologize if these sound simplistic or obvious, I've just been out of the loop for a while. So here are the questions: 1. What server should I play on if I want to do ranked PvP? 2. What are the current meta classes and weak ones? (My highest are a DPS Sage and Shadow) 3. How is the community in terms of it being active or not currently? Thanks in advance for anyone who answers any of these questions, I really do appreciate it!

Hey, thanks for the info! Really appreciate it. On a side note, probably 90% if not more of the posts I see about classes has people referring to empire side chars which I find as strange. Is there any reason for this?

Hey all, I quit around a year and a half ago and decided to give this game another chance since I have more free time. My main character is a shadow and I've been seeing some discouraging threads lately about how they have been nerfed and aren't that viable in PvP. I really want to play this character because it's the most fun for me and I really like the attacks and how it plays. So basically what i'm asking is if it would be ill-advised to continue using a shadow for PvP, particularly in ranked matches which I plan on trying to do once I get to max level and gear. Also, I'm having trouble finding a guide or video to show what builds are good (specifically for infiltrator) and what rotations I should be using in combat. If someone could point me in the right direction for where to find that information out I'd greatly appreciate it! TL;DR -- 1. Are Shadows viable for PvP (ranked too) 2. Where can I find a good guide/video to learn the proper build/rotations?

I don't understand what leaving behind a trail of light would do, are you saying it would deflect incoming weapon fire? Also what do you mean by shields and webs? I call b.s though on them being able to move fast enough to flat out "dodge" incoming fire. That seems rather flawed because if you were able to move quickly enough to dodge at the speed of sound (and faster), wouldn't it stand to reason you could move your legs that quickly and run at the speed of sound? That seems like it would be more than plausible if you could move that quickly with the rest of your body.

Using the force to block with is a no brainer, that totally makes sense. I'm specifically referring to saber movements and the ability for their limbs to move quickly enough to dodge them.

Thanks NYYankee and Wolfninjajedi for your responses! And I definitely agree Wolf, against armored foes and robots blasters are the way to go. However, in terms of Jedi who primarily use robes (and even if there is slight padding under them, the head is completely exposed) I think slugthrowers would still be a vast improvement on them in comparison to blasters. Like I said before, Jedi/Sith having superhuman abilities I totally understand, but to dodge an array of bullets from slugthrowers shooting faster than the speed of sound? That seems unlikely at best, if not improbable at worst.

I guess that's just the crux of it all, aye? Haha, this might be the most convincing piece of information to allow myself to buy into how Jedi are able to survive almost every large gun fight they are involved in. If all the stormtroopers had even decent aim, the Jedi would either need to surrender more often or not get into as many of those situations, which wouldn't make for good plot progression . I'm able to accept they have little to no training, and are just shoved out there to essentially be cannon fodder.

I'm definitely more okay with the concept now after talking to you and your well constructed points, but not sold on it as of now. I too thought of the distance the blast has to travel in relation to the distance the saber has to move, but at higher speeds the distance becomes less important. It's obviously an important factor, but at the speeds we are referring to it's essentially negligible. As far as the acrobatic and movement aspect of their dodging capabilities i'm far less sold on that argument (although it's certainly making it a TON more believable). There have been scenes most definitely where they dodged and flipped in order to have their enemies really test their aiming skills out for size. But there have been just as many scenes (maybe even more) where it's a simple running away instance that has frontal and back blocking saber movements with no acrobatics or fancy dodges. I just can't see the justification for their blocking abilities if the speed of the blasts from multiple enemies is as fast as a bullet would be. I really do appreciate and enjoy tremendously having this conversation btw! It's great to have a person to discuss this with that doesn't get flustered and angry over my criticism of this point.

Right, and thanks for that! It kind of makes sense to me, but I think i'm either too tired or too ignorant on the issue to fully comprehend your explanation, but I understand it makes sense! As for Jedi sensing the immediate future explanation, if you read my OP I addressed that issue and went into some detail as to why that doesn't hold up. It's because at some point in certain circumstances (that are pretty common according to the movies) simply knowing where/when a blast will strike you isn't enough to evade it. An example of this would be if there were multiple enemies shooting simultaneously which happened a good number of times. Even if you were able to sense/predict where the five blasts would land on your body, unless they are perfectly aligned for a saber to block them all at a certain angle it simply couldn't be done. Also important to note below*** I'd also like to point out that there are definitely times in my recollection of the fight/chase scenes where the sound of a blaster being fired happened before a Jedi physically reacted. That would mean the only way the blast could be deflected would be by matching it's speed with physical movement, regardless of predictive measures.

Hey, thanks for the comment! But then I'd have to go back to my original argument, where I say even a Jedi can't move his arms/saber quick enough to block an object moving at the blaster's speed. I completely grant and understand the fact Jedi's are stronger/quicker than humans. But an important piece of information (visually speaking) is that we can visually comprehend and see the Jedi moving their limbs. They aren't going at the speed of light, let alone the speed of sound an average bullet far surpasses in speed. Therefore if you were to argue that the actual blast was going at least as fast as a bullet comparable to our weapons, then you'd also have to make the argument that the Jedi can move their limbs at an equal speed (and even quicker if there were multiple shooters that they needed to block). I will certainly grant they are more physically abled than humans. But all visual representations indicate they aren't moving nearly that quickly. Plus if they could, then I hope they'd use those speeds they can apparently move at to do more than just block objects! Why haven't we seen Jedi run at that speed or swing the saber that quickly?

Thanks for the reply, Wolfninjajedi! I would love your explanation if it wasn't for the movie portraying that "tracer" you call it as the main projectile doing the harm. The Jedi are clearly trying to deflect the tracer, and it even shows it bouncing off the sabers. If it were only a particle effect that was an aftermath of the actual blast, then it doesn't appear the Jedi are aware of this and are somehow still surviving and doing just fine with this false notion.

I'm sure this question has been asked countless times, but I've never personally seen or heard an explanation that satisfies me. Hopefully that can be resolved here! Even though the events of SW are set "long ago", the technology is certainly more advanced than ours currently. This means it stands to reason our current weapons could be manufactured by them, or a variant similar in design/functionality. Yet the stormtroopers and any character/weapon in this universe uses blasters that shoot a beam of sorts....the type that are able to be blocked by human reaction times. Why would anyone who's able to manufacture a weapon such as an AK-47 choose to use a blaster instead? I'm sure in some circumstances (depending on how well blasters are at penetrating heavy armor and how well they hold up under certain environments/distances) but against a robed jedi at close proximity in an environment close to our own, i'm picking our weaponry over theirs any day of the week. The best argument I heard was from a friend that said in the books it's somewhat explained by the force being able to almost help them predict where the beam will end up, and honestly I buy that explanation 100%. But there are instances where even that explanation wouldn't make even a lick of sense. For instance, if you had an automatic gun, that predictive knowledge wouldn't help you at all, as even being as strong as a Jedi wouldn't allow you to move the saber in time to block multiple bullets (even from the same gun if the shooter sprayed in various areas). This is taking into account only one shooter, mind you. If there are 2 or more (which is usually the case in terms of when stormtroopers show up) then there's absolutely no way the saber could block even anywhere near all of those shots with a weapon the speeds of most of our modern guns. *PLEASE NOTE BEFORE COMMENTING* 1. I understand this is a fictional movie and that it's not going to be 100% sensible, so please spare me the "there are ewoks, space travel, and force powers, but you find fault in the blaster speed?!" comments. 2. I also understand that there may be no explanation at all, and if so i'd be happy to accept that answer as well. 3. I called the plasma/light that shoots out of the blasters "beams", but honestly I don't know if that's correct or not. But that is completely besides the point. Whether or not a beam would actually go that speed is a different topic entirely. All i'm asking is why use a weapon that shoots that slowly when you could use a weapon such as our current guns.

Even if you aren't in a guild but know of one like I said in my OP, i'd really appreciate being pointed into the right direction for a guild like the one I described.

Hi, i'm a lvl 55 shadow that mostly plays WZs whenever online. I've tried a couple of different ways to find an active PvP guild (to no avail) so I thought i'd give the forums a try. I'm willing to use mumble, TS, or whatever line of communication preferred and am a nice person (self proclaimed, granted. But still ). Anyone who is either in or knows about a guild(s) that is active in PvP, i'd really appreciate being told!

Hey, thanks so much for answering all of my questions. I really appreciate knowing there are helpful people in the community . And I know I said those would be my last questions, but now that i'm going to buy the PvE armor i'm having trouble and don't know what you meant by 66/66 O.o. Could you clarify what that means exactly?

Hey thanks so much for your response! (and Phalczen's simplification ). I have just one or two more questions though, and then I think i'll be all set on this topic. So essentially if I have all my armor pieces that aren't Obroan just 66/66 (augmented), then I should be good? I'll buy those and also the implants/earpiece. I already have enough coms to get the Obroan relics and will work towards getting the OH Obroan next. But if I do all that, i'll be good to go? Thanks so much!

I haven't done Ranked Queue before and therefore don't know whether or not I have good enough gear. Wasn't aware gear isn't as important either; but that doesn't mean i'm not ready for it. Over generalizations like this get me annoyed lol. I know my class and play/strategist well with others who are willing to talk in chat. I've just never ranked queue like I said, so i'm just trying to be polite and not queue with ineffective gear as to avoid the inevitable trash talking end of match when facing a loss from teammates saying, "Lol we lost because of your scrub gear, get better and then queue up scrub".

So my gear layout as of now is: Obroan Headpiece, body, legs, and saber Partisan set other armor pieces Conqueror implants, relics, earpiece, and offhand *Everything is augmented* Is this good enough to compete in ranked matches with, or do I need to be more geared? If so, how much more geared until i'm ready? Thanks in advance for the responses .

I think you don't understand what i'm asking. I don't know how to make it any more clear than it already is, so I guess just re-read my OP O.o

So i'm very ignorant when it comes to ranked PvP, and don't know how the ranking works or how important it is. I mostly PvP in swtor so I don't want to rush into it with solo queue and mess up my rating without knowing how damaging it is to do so. I need ranked comms for the best PvP gear, and obviously queueing for ranked wz matches yield the maximum amount of ranked comms. But if I grind through mostly losses to get fully geared, will my rating be so low it'll take a long time to get it back to normal? Or is it relatively easy to increase/decrease ratings? Also, how important are they? Sorry for all the questions, but I admittedly don't know enough on this matter :/.

Hi, my name is Curmedy. I play swtor and am not a huge fan of Star Wars. *Gasps heard around the room* I feel like i'm confessing my problems in an AA meeting or self help group whenever I tell people this in game. Their reactions are shockingly harsh and unforgiving to my surprise. I thought an MMO wouldn't expect you to know the base material hardcore. Usually whenever I tell people their next question is, "So why do you even play this game?" as if that's the only reason anyone ever plays swtor... Do people not see what I see, which is a really solid and fun mmo? That's the reason I play, not because of some nostalgia it brings up from my childhood. Just thought i'd mention this because it gets on my nerves how everyone expects all the players to know their references to the movies, books (didn't even know there were books until seeing conversations about them in this game lol O.o). But yeah, it's a great standalone mmo that's cool if it also brings back good memories for you, but not a requirement to enjoy it imo.

I'm not big on role playing or care about realism in mmo's but this really gets under my skin for some reason. I usually have the game volume down and music playing instead, but sometimes I like to listen to the game volume while PvPing. Whenever I get hit by an operative all I hear are the ridiculous never ending laughs that the character makes once every three seconds it seems like. Like I said before i'm not a stickler for realism in games like this, but wouldn't you be too focused and out of breath from all the moving and fighting to continuously laugh your *** off at stabbing someone? (Psychotic much?) P.S - I'm not complaining that they need to take it out of the game or should have an option to mute character sounds. I'm just curious if anyone else is bothered by this. please refrain from saying such pointless insults as "QQ some more!" or "Just mute it then nub!"

Thanks for the information. Does your ranking go down when you lose also?