Yep great idea, force cloak, lets drop all our threat to maintain the 4%. Oh my you guys are soooo smart. And your idea about timing, the problem is that the extra 2 seconds we have from maintaining our rotation for the 4% doesn't give us any options. When its time to move and it gets us at just the right moment, we lose the 4% of dr that is supposed to parallel us with the other tanks in armor rating. You keep yammering about the same crap KBN, but yet never offer any alternatives. All you seem capable of doing is shouting down everyone. Either give an idea on how to better play (something other than play better), or something BW can do to help us out a little. Or better yet shut up! Ranting over and over again to prove your ego does nothing but confuse the small minded BW employees, and the have enough issues as is.

There was never any doubt on whether the Sins/ shadows have enough time to refresh the stacks. The case we seem to be making and you keep ignoring is that in most fights where the tank has more to do then stand in one spot and refresh his DR buff, the 12 seconds stack timer is a bit tight. There should be either a longer counter or something we can do to one punch reset the timer or 4%. Discharge would probably work well for that sort of idea. Possibly even have the first tick of Force lightning build the entire 4%.

O gee could you post another video in a fight that requires almost zero situational awareness and no movement, because that would prove your point spot on KBN. They need to extend the timer, or give us something that is a one shot to reset the time on the stacks so that if we do need to move and our 4% drops off at least we will have the proc stacks up so when we can we can get the 4 back with out spending 10 second rebuilding our proc buff

These premade pvpers all say the same thing, get better and don't take away our group pvp advantage. It is obvious that none of them can hack pvp on actual pvp servers where people actually actively compete in pvp. they only do pvp on the pve and rp servers where the more casual pvp players. All they do is ruin our experience to make up for their pathetic real lives. BW why not allow solo vs solo que options, and why not allow a quit cool down timer? FP and ops have a quit timer. Why not pvp? Pve has the option to join in progress ops and fps, why not allow solo vs solo option? So that those of us that don't want to deal with the premade tryhard crowd can avoid it as an option. BW please consider this, stop pandering to this elitist group of people. There are enough people with suggestions on how to fix this, it is well past time to implement one of them.

Raansu maybe on your server, I happen to be on Harbringer where all the chicken **** pvpers are, they actually left to the pvp servers, found themselves lacking and came back to ensure season rewards, and here they remain.

Well Raansu let me see about the people that like to just 2 man que, they can group into the group que and get paired with others, it has been awhile but let me see 2+2+4=8. 3+3+2=8, 2+2+2+2=8. of course the basic math doesn't take into account people by themselves willing to join into a grp pvp match 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=8. If allowing solo vs solo que option would bring more people back into pvping, what is the problem. Oh I forgot you can't pvp without your group.

Raansu you rant the same thing over and over again, and I'll I ever see and hear is you cowering in the corners if you where ever denied the ability to go pug stomp with your buddies to make up for you RL short comings!

Anya maybe you missed the part about the quit cd timer, and the solo vs solo would only be implemented as an option the player could select, such as the join in progress option for pve fp and ops.

And why Raansu are you so scared to let (those of us that are either more causal players or socially challenged) us have a solo vs solo only que. You say you are not scared but all you do is rage against. Your actions show your true colors.

Actually the problem is you premade guys cowering in fear of the idea of not having all you premade buddies with you. Again everyone tell bioware you want a solo vs solo que option, with a cd quit timer.

Oh no Raansu called me a baddy, my life is over. You reek of fear Raansu, you don't want change because you and your grouped up pvp buddies would not do nearly so well in a solo vs solo que (your fragile ego's couldn't handle it), and if you did group que, you know your opposition would be a premade group as well. Anyone and everyone that thinks a SOLO vs SOLO only que (with a 2-5 minute quit match timer) could help on some of the drastically unbalance pvp on pve and rp servers, post here, post on the developer tracker forum, post every where you can think of. Bioware may actually get a clue if enough of us ask for it.

Rannsu then my fix would cause you know issue's then would it. You can play with your group and the ones that don't want to be pug stomped when we are just casually queing in can do solo vs solo. Still don't get what you guys are afraid of if this were to happen.

Good for you Tellenn, that in no way has anything to do with what we are talking about though. If you just want to brag, go somewhere else.

Rannsu, I can only assume you would be scared to que in solo, because your buddies wouldn't be there.

That will always be the case, there will be less skilled player, there will still be laughably good players in the match. If bioware would just allow solo que vs solo que only, at least its all mixed up for the more casual player and the goods and bads are random. We are complaining about a small group of players that exploit the way the que works currently in order to pug stomp as a team. Solo vs solo only que would cut the rug out from them. They would have to go at it random and at times against each other or see what they get with grouped que. Especially if you put a small quit timer on wz matches. Nothing significant would be required, just 2-5 minutes so we wouldn't get the small group of people quiting and requeing 10 times in a effort to keep their pug stomp team together. And yes the people we are complaining about are just the sorts of people to try it!