hi is it me or does anyone else think this new aoe taunt system is crap for dps ? i do ALOT of daily's as dps and you now cannot taunt them all for aoe dmg and my comps (healer) keeps pulling the agro so am running back and forth alot. seems giving us a new agro drop icon instead of using threatening scream, might of been a good idea but it comes down to laziness from BW/EA

didnt force choke use to build up force crush stacks before 2.0 ??

i would upgrade all the way to yeah get the bh shield as the stats are good and u can aug if u miss anything i.e def

dam it i forgot to ask since am not rocking at 28/50/53 i didnt mention about the endurance stim. will taking this affect me for DR as it goes over 28% def, if it does i best sell them lol..... also when i get hit sometimes i get chataters saying absorbed but i never see how much is being absorbed. i know if the mob hits me for 1000 my 53% would reduce that just over half but how do u know how the mob hits u for in the first place ??

ok great ill increase the abs to 53& but can it be higher without diminishing return ? id like to get the highest stats thats possible without DR ?

so the best stat would be 28/50/50 ? i can remove the 2 points in shield but only if it will help me. if i stay at 28/50 can i make my abs much higher ? or just keep it at 50. my shield is at 52.78 and 50.47 abs just for a more accurate result. i believe what ur saying is 28/50/52

ok ive gotten to 28.31/52/50 is this good ? i ask cos i dont really notice the differance and id like to know the full def/shi/abs ratings before deminishing returns happen.

i have no probs hitting 28/60/60 if thats whats better, if i reduce my def to 28% my attack "retaliation" adds an extra 3% so the chart shows def hitting 33% at max before DR ? edit, i also have inf end/def stim so that adds a few % so do i reduce def to 25% or keep it at 30%? my attack will increase the 25% to 28%? i am happy to swap some def% for shi/abs IF that will help me ??

ty for the reply, u can see my confusion as the chart shows mitigation at 70% abs, so there is a massive difference from (what ive read 50%abs to 70% abs) on the chart. i do spike quite badly so ill increase my shi/abs to max as stated on the chart and see how that goes i dont have a prob in denova but thats cos we have great healers, but the more easier i can make it for them the better

wow some good point here, what id like to know is whats the best stats as an immortal jugger ? am sitting at 28/50/50 as suggested my alot of forum reading/charts but ive also seen 20/45/70 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is confusing as bw wont even tell me what the max is before DR ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

tyvm for the info. so staying 27/50/50 is the perfect amount? i say 27% due to that attack bringing it up to 30%

hi all what the the max stats before i get diminishing return on def/shild/absorb ? with and without stims/buffs but i have an attack called "retaliation" that increases def chance by 3% i have seen a chart showing 28/45/50 but not sure if u can have buffs/stims when u hit this as base also some relics give a massive 405 abs rating for 6 secs,so that would be a massive diminishing return if i have 50% already right ?? thank you

this still dont answer my question. is it really that hard for anyone to give me the max un-buffed un-stimed stats ???? well i went for 30/50/50 and i seem to die quicker

this is well out of date........ "Soresu Form increases threat generation by 50%" <---------- wrong if i read this right 2 shield to 1 absorb ?? so that would be 50% shield max (apparently) to 25% absorb ????

yeah hes not long posted that and ive replied. also ive read mmomechanics but god knows the formulas and i don't think 20/50/50 is good enough. and am sure u wont get diminishing returns on 21/51/51 ?? surely BW would of increased it since we can augment everything ??