The way matchmaking works is this... Say you are rated 100 out of a possible 200... At first it looks for other rank 100 players... if after x amount of time (say 30 seconds) that isn't possible, then it moves to include 90-110 ranked people, then after another minute, moves to 80-120 and so on and so forth.... So even on low PvP pop servers, the games would be there... if there is a split queue, your games would basically be gone...

It makes the day pass a bit faster xD

Did you know that you can communicate via typing to your teammates? And then God said "LET THERE BE TEAMWORK VIA KEYBOARD" And there was /mindblown

I got the sarcasm xD

Let me see if I can get this through your head.... They Implement new matchmaking system... Everyone's stats are now reset to 0... From the moment that everyone starts to queue, they have to re-earn their place in the ratings... This is based off of what you do NOW, not what you did THEN... This means, wait for it, OMG... ITS NOT BASED OFF OF OLD STATS! /mindblown!

Wow... to institute a Matchmaking system, they would have to reset everyone's stats. Thus resetting the bar and giving everyone a level playing field... So it wouldn't be based on old stats... Wanna try again?

Very rarely kiddo, do people successfully get a FULL premade by queuing simultaneously. So to make a premade as you are defining it, that is in a solo queue, and you will face with ANY regularity, will only be 4 people and then they other 4 are often PUGs. so when you have 3 premaders and 5 pugs... that is still a majority premade with the consideration that only 4 people can group queue at a time. God you really don't have any decent material to back yourself up, do you? You have to try to insult those of us who are in the right...

Just wait... your argument will be considered unintelligent and ignored... he likes doing that to people who present an argument he cant argue against...

I never premade... ever... so try again Thorgis

Wow *******... Your right 4+4=8... Im SOOO glad you can do basic math... but ONLY 4 people can queue as a group. So 3 people... Hold on... this is hard for you... is MOST of 4... SO ITS ALMOST 1/2 OF A FULL PREMADE! Which is usually what you face when you complain about facing premades kiddo.

Wrong... PUG groups often DO have healers... In a days worth of PUGs I often have MAYBE 15-20% of the WZs NOT have a healer...

Brilliant Thorgis... You DO know that you can't solo queue with a full group of 8 right? So 3 people make up a decent size "premade" team...

Wait... Now you want to get RID of PUGs? Do you even KNOW what your arguing? And PUGs often DO have healers. They just tend to choose the people most likely to survive to heal. And PUGs do have teamwork. They just need someone to lead and tell them what needs to be done and coordinate. So do you want PUGs to disappear or Premades... please clarify...

He skipped a few of mine prior... Now all he tries to do is "dismiss" my posts. knowing he can't argue them... Or yours for that matter.

ok, please genius, enlighten me on where your communist self resides... OBVIOUSLY a country VASTLY superior to America... Damn... isnt that the type of thinking that you hate Americans for? OH SNAP! Your just as bad... move along and just quit the damned game already... You hate it and we don't want you in it

Dude... I have been in PUGs... PUGS! NO one was pre-matched. That worked together, healed, called out incs, basically, worked as a team, and we DEMOLISHED the other team. 3 of which WERE in the same guild and more then likely, a premade. Your argument is invalid and unintelligent.

Not intelligent? Because I'm right and your wrong? Or because I don't agree with you and because I PUG and PvP I ruin your entire argument?

Thank you Jade! We have had our differences in the past, but thank you ;-P

You must be from Commie China then? You think everyone should be handed everything without working for it. And ***** and moan about those who HAVE worked for it and use it...

I PUG... I STILL play WZs... And all your talking about is working intelligently and having a strat. Ive run into OTHER PUG Groups (And even BEEN in a few PUG groups) that do this... Running off on your own is, plain and simple, STUPID!

I think its the fact that he runs off on his own to do ****, and then gets repeatedly killed by 2 or 3 people who see him out on his own...

Has anyone else noticed that he COMPLETELY ignores my posts? Because I am not a premader and have said so repeatedly and thus makes his argument null and void? Matchmaking is the ONLY way to fix the problem. You will get a rating based on if you win or lose. So if you keep losing to these "gankers and griefers" you will eventually not be on their level. Then you dont have to worry about them anymore. And you WILL be lower, considering you think WZs should be 8 individual duels...

Seriously? Just because someone doesn't think like you doesnt mean they run Premades! Solo queue or not, IT IS A TEAM GAME! If you try to do everything solo, then YOU ARE WHATS WRONG WITH PVP! And why your ******* is getting ganked and griefed! Its not 8 individual duels, its a 8v8 match! Wow dude...

Dude... if you want a game that doesn't support tanks and healers... I would suggest playing GW2... Might serve you a bit better... As a Solo Queuer (Not a Pre-made runner that you keep attacking) your posts hurt my head...

Dude, I Solo queue, everyday, on multiple toons. All Splitting queues will do is make the premades go into solo queues and STILL dominate. We currently HAVE split queues, Ranked and Non-ranked. And on most servers, Ranked is like an hour wait for a match, unless you get lucky as hell.