obviously i struck a cord with you, sorry i wasn't raised in the generation where everyone gets an all-star trophy cuz we don't want to hurt anyone feelings you guys say don't judge its not here yet all i'm (and it seems other people as well) asking is for credible reason to not judge them on the negative? you hear of a new version of a car you like is coming out, but you have a history of poor performance countless repair issues with the car, do you right away say "this is the best car they have come out with yet can't wait to get one". or are you going to say "hey i like the car and all but it has had many issues I've had to deal with not so sure I'm going to jump and get the upgrade." and by the way having a disagreement with someone isn't trolling you say its going to be awesome give it a chance i say I've given them a chance 2.4 was the last one for me (and other people)

oh and they have such an awesome track record of releasing the best possible content they can 2.4 ranked PvP is still in preseason 1 this summer we just got the Cathar race which was promised in like what 1.3 the fact that when the game was launched it was not a completed game by biowares standard (EA rushed them to launch the game earlier then they wanted to) so yeah great evidence that its something totally new, that gives me a whole bunch of confidence ... man when ever they say the are working on something new i get all giddy like its Blizzard working on a new game working on a new game

next week they are going to put 2.4.1 patch into effect with a known bug in it (check out the Dev forums) that being said what evidence do you have to support the claim that 12v12 PvP space combat wont be a fail?

just curious as to why why we can't get 8v8 solo ranked WZ que? i was under the impression when 2.4 came out that they were allowing solo queing across the board because no one was playing ranked WZ hence the reason we have been in preseason 1 since....when did they put ranked PvP in? seems that they are ok in force regular que to play arenas and WZ, but not ok with solo ranked ques to play both arena and wz just curios as to why that is? why can't solo ranked que go across the board like regular que?

I'll be honest i only read the first couple pages of this post and here is my thoughts on the new WZ. I agree this is the worst WZ to be released to date yet it is the best one to play in. Where the DEvs went wrong is releasing this WZ in the random maps que. What makes the map good is the complexity of the map and the many ways it can be won. What makes the map bad is the complexity of the map and its many ways to win. That being said this map should only be in the Ranked PvP que not the genral random PvP que, I only Que solo for PvP and usually i know before the map starts weather the team will win or lose, The amount of team tactics it takes to win the map make it fail beyond all accounts for random que. I have noticed since the release many people are just Queing for PvP to get WZ comms and get the gear they couldn't get before. So now we have an in-fluxe of people that 1) are under-geared 2) think that because the got some WH gear now they are good. good example was in a Huttball match "hey I'll grab the ball just heal me and go to the end zone" "Dude you only have 102 expertise, your not even a speed-bump" unfortunately the above example is more common then uncommon