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  1. datav

    please stop...

    LOL I love "east=Boston west=LA" But I don't think it's a big deal, because for those of us that actually know the map(it's not hard to learn) it doesn't matter I they call out east, west, south, grass, snow mid. Whether people Calle east or snow is really the least of your worries in a WZ. And atleast they are calling. THAT is the most important thing.
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    Objective of WZ's

    Those are both good techniques for helping the team. The former, I'm sure you get defending point and medals for. I also believe its extremely useful what you do. I've seen so many people that don't use their stealth right. The latter will only really work if your team is savvy enough to notice what you are doing and score. I have done this as well on my Sent. Having 4 people attacking you in hutt-ball is such a waste of man-power for the other team that your team should see a huge gap to score through. And like I said, it's all about when and where you do it, and I'm sure you won't ALWAYS be worst on obj. Points or medals.
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    Objective of WZ's

    Been some good answers here! I didn't expect so many, nor such long responses lol. Great points made for both sides. But I still believe that objectives-medals are the most important gauges for a how well a person did. YES there will be times when one must sacrifice himself or getting obj. points, by play outside the point giving area, BUT it's all done in order for (hopefully) someone in the team to cap/plant/score. someone made mention of attacking and defending on voidstar, and how it's not always smart to fight near the door.. For ranged, obviously not. For melee, as long AS YOU CAN STILL SEE IF DOOR IS BEING CAPPED then it's cool. But tooooooo many people go off and fight away from the door and don't even bother checking if it is being capped. That's not defense.
  4. datav

    Objective of WZ's

    I see your point and agree to an extent. I just think DMG is important and having good DPS helps but it's not the most important. Objectives come first, attacking goes with it. And sometimes you don't get just points deserved for what you contributed, but more times than none you will. I know strange things like the ones you mentioned can happen and that point distribution can be askewed. the first example, obviously attacker points will be granted and somewhat deserved just for picking the right door or node. but did all three gunslingers die as well, because if not they get the points to (plus Dmg for medals and kill medals). it does seem a little unfair to award you just fr being there, but that's how it is. The second example, I could see how you think you don deserve much points for that, but just because you did cap it yourself, I'd say you deserve points (makes up for the stun awakenings), and even though you didn't move your camera while stealth to make sure no one caps, you were still smart enough to stay and defend (I've seen WAY too many people leave bases unattended just to go help cap another). And you ended up winning in the end so your points are somewhat deserved because tht victory I somewhat because of you (even though you almost blew it). And the guy that said the 100k told me that DMG was the most important thing in WZ's. We actually ended up winning with him being the only one to go over 100k. And I know 100k is nothing, I did 97k with a lvl 11 soldier. I just really that not enough people know what their class should be doing in each WZ.
  5. datav

    Objective of WZ's

    As long as it's actually doing some good. if not, what's the point? and how many Objective Points do you get on avg? AND who's your MVP vote going to? i'm pretty sure if you are doing this whilst defending a point and it is done successfully you should get a decent amount of obj. points. same goes for attacking a point, if you capture it whilst attacking the healer you'll get points. but maybe not limiting yourself to this all the time would be a better idea. in hutt ball this will be more handy for defense, as i prefer to look for passes and try to score since i have shields, transcendence and the ever annoying force leap. i think attacking the healer is all really about when and where you do it. you have to make sure that you are contributing.
  6. datav

    Objective of WZ's

    WAY TOO FEW people like you. I salute you.
  7. datav

    Objective of WZ's

    When everyone else in the guild is playing their 50's theres not much I can do. and i don't "think" people play these as a Team Deathmatch, i've seen them do it, heard them say it. They are OBJECTIVE BASED maps not "go blow sh** up" maps. And it's not about being able to break the 100k mark(because it really aint hard for DPS if you just go out and fight sh**), but to imply that it's got to be done to succeed? or that you're not good if you dont do it that round? uhhhhh.....falsity.
  8. dude why dont you go to worlds with contested ares and go "thrill kill" there. PVP is about objectives, and you not doing them and just thinking about yourself ruins it for the rest of us that also pay the $15. If you "dont want to participate" in them simply dont PVP and save the rest of us the trouble?
  9. datav

    Objective of WZ's

    At first I didn't like any of the WZ maps because i just wanted to blow stuff up. But now that I have gotten back into the game, and i'm pvp'ing a whole bunch (to get both my normal and ranked comms stacked by 50) i've taken a liking to the strategic gameplay each offers . If all you do is PVP like that (and im sure a lot of people do) you start to notice trends in victories and defeats. Here is my problem: (I have not really played as an Imp. but its gotta go both ways.) MOST people think that "doing good" in a WZ means doing the most DMG in the round....I even had one guy say "let's see how many of you can't break the 100k dmg mark." and it's exactly people like that, that are ruining PVP for the rest of us. This is not a FPS, the objectives are not to kill, nor to get a certain amount of DMG. yes, you DO get medals for dmg, BUT it should come while completeing objectives not taking on random rights in the middle of the map. Each WZ requires different tactics for different classes( yes, you actually have to think) and if employed properly the WZ is made easier. I'm not going to sit here and write what i've learned from each WZ, just try and notice why you win and why you lose. (beside the "my team is f****** retarded" excuse) But my rambling leads to this.. since so many people think this is about DMG, at the end of the WZ when MVP votes should go to the MVP, it's always to the one who did most DMG(every blue moon he/she doesn't get even 1 vote). Unless you are in a group and all vote for each other, I think it should be an unwritten (not anymore i guess) rule that votes should go for the one with MOST OBJECTIVE POINTS and the BEST HEALER(they dont get enough credit!!!). it is severely frustrating when you get the highest objective points in your group (meaning you did what the WZ requires) and you dont even get one point, but then the guy with most DMG and least objective points gets 3 votes. I also understand it's just 1, 2 or 3 extra comms, but if you are repeatedly top 3 in objective points then it could really start to add up. if anybody out there feels the same...
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