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  1. Xendor (leader of the first great Schism) was first exiled and then HE declared war on the Jedi and then the order struck back. Its the same with Ajunta Pall (lead the second Great Schism) he was banished because he was experimenting on life itself how to create and shape it. He and his followers here outraged by the arrogance of the Jedi (which is funny coming from people trying to play God) and declared war on them.
  2. I would say with movies either General Grievous or Tarkin. In the EU Ive always loved Ysanne Isard she was just so evil it was amazing
  3. I know all the villains in KOTOR were really well established especially Darth Brandon. I mean never in the game was I like wait who is this and why is he suddenly a threat? O he killed that guy at the start of the game when you see him for 3 seconds well he must be powerful if he can kill a grunts. Same with companions I mean Zaalbar right? He had soo many dialouge options dialogue options it was crazy I spent hours talking to that guy.
  4. Wait the sandbox mmo was more sandbox then the non-sandbox mmo WOW! Also it being sandbox made it more enjoyable for YOU. Why is it so hard for you SWG types to realize a lot of us don't want that game if we did we would have played it when it was out.
  5. Wait what?....just what?? So if you follow the lore of a franchise as set fort by the creator of that franchise you can't think for yourself? That is some champion logic right there
  6. This again http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chosen_one Read the behind the scenes
  7. Well I read all the links the OP posted trying to prove his point and I have to say they convinced me this whole argument is even more full of (insert curse here) then I already thought. http://kotaku.com/5872687/its-not-st...rced-voyeurism This seems to have started this "debate" and really its one guy saying "hey I don't like playing evil characters so I felt bad having to do evil things" WOW how shocking! http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1186371.html This is literally just saying that some people (what like three IRL?) don't like treatment of Vette. I also like how it acts as if there is some kind of massive online battle happening over this. Really?! This just smacks of "oh no slow news day lets attack video games people still overreact to those right?" http://n4g.com/news/714218/the-top-eight-sexist-games http://www.spike.com/articles/xd7wnl...t-sexist-games This is about KOTOR not SWTOR nice try though Officer Barbrady. BTW the "arguments" that those games where sexist were incredibly shoddy. http://www.themarysue.com/so-maybe-including-a-shock-collar-wearing-female-slave-in-the-old-republic-wasnt-the-best-idea/ Again this is just someone seeing this drivel about sexism and rolling with it. I also love the spurious reasoning given for how torture of Vette is soooo much more evil than anything for realsies u guyz! I feel there is something wrong with someone who can rank torture as being worse depending on the sex, race, or blah blah of the people involved. Um I'm pretty sure all torture is equally horrendous when ITS IN REAL LIFE not as an OPTION in a game. http://lezgetreal.com/2012/01/sex-to...-old-republic/ This is actually against your point nice investigative work Sam Spade http://www.swtorstrategies.com/2012/...ro-sexism.html No where in this does it mention Vette or your "totally correct" grievances. This is just someone pointing flaws in some argument that amazing is even dumber than this one so I guess 10 points to Ravenclaw for finding that.
  8. Well the Jedi don't want to kill all Imperial citizens they want to destroy the Sith (the dark-side users not the species although at this point there is little difference as almost all members of the Sith species are actual Sith) because they are a cancer on the force. Oh and this not a debatable point the Jedi are correct and the dark side is not a natural balance to the light. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chosen_One Read the behind the scenes in both articles
  9. In the wookieepedia page for papa palpatine it says the Mace reflected the lightning back to Palp which revealed his true form. The quotes here explain it all http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Evil_Within
  10. Alright fine the EU is a separate universe and doesn't occur in the movie's timeline but the thing is this game itself and all things in it are EU. So why are you against the Hutt portrayal in game if it fits into the its separate universe's view of them? If your so adamant that the things in EU don't occur with movies then the way Hutts are in this game shouldn't affect you as according to you these aren't "true" Hutts and you can keep believing that the movie Hutts are completely separate.
  11. I would love to see Ewoks and maybe unlock the secrets of their mystical weaponry that can destroy advanced armor from the strongest army in the galaxy.
  12. Well the Republic itself isn't racist (speciesist) but there are racists in the Republic. This is the difference between Republic and Empire because while racist things will happen in the Republic the Imperial government and society is built up on Specieism and subjugation
  13. It's always nice to see people try and defend their arbitrary decisions on what should or should not be Star Wars. Lightning from fingertips and Force choke=Perfect sense EU darkside powers (Force scream for example)= Totally ridiculous Government run by what are essentially homicidal evil monk/wizards=OK Government run by gangsters=WHAT THAT IS SOOO STUPID! I also love how this means that you find Ewoks acceptable but things in the EU are to much to handle. Really? Star Wars cannon lost the chance for a line in the sand against dumb things when Lucas put those in ROTJ. You are totally right Rakghouls were only added to cash in on zombie craze (is that still a thing really?) and not because they were a big part of Taris in KOTOR. Lastly, if you refuse to accept the EU sources the game lore is based on why do you post in the LORE forum everything that happens in game is considered EU so why should lore aspects of it bother you if you won't accept EU as things that happened?
  14. The basic thing to understand is that most or many of the humans believe they are the dominate species while the remaining Sith believe they are the best. So really you have two species on top who view all other species as below them (unless one of them has enough force power to earn respect) but who at the same time look down on each other.
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