It will seriously turn this mmo from the basic standard log in at raid time only mmo to an actual social hub if they bought pazaak and other mini games. Cantinas around the game will be packed with players competing with each other! Would make the atmosphere come alive.

To be honest, at the moment credits seem completely useless as there is no point buying crafting gear after you have achieved the pvp or pve version of the slot. I have around 1.5mil credits and I don't intent to use them for anything. In fact I seem to give most of mine away to people that ask simply because I don't care for my credits. Having these mini games where you have to pay to enter (with credits) or even set a bet would be pretty beneficial to the economy of the game in the sense that instead of a dead economy that there is now it will be thriving with people desperate to sell their goods to gain some credits for another game of Pazaak. People will then be selling and buying, trading etc etc pazaak cards. I can imagine it now. General chat wont be dead and trade chat will be thriving.

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Not boosting rift up in anyway but that game had an option to hide should pads and it was a fantasy.

Duel spec needs to happen. Without it there will be endless waits and searches for tanks which is pathetic. Today I wanted to find a tank even tho I could tank myself if I respeced but I didn't want to pay, re arrange my hot bars etc etc. Why should I have to go through all that effort just to tank an instance for 1 hour then go back to pvping the rest of the day meaning I have to repeat the lengthy process.

Good idea, keep them coming!

- Enough said. Duel spec allows people to get involved in PvE and PvP instead of being forced down one path of the game. Here is what I mean: - I want to do a flashpoint, Taral v, I spend the whole day looking for a tank. In the end I give up. I am a shadow therefore I could be the tank but here are the reasons I chose not to bother respecing : - The cost - Rearrange the user interface, hot bars etc. - The effort just for one flashpoint, then to go back to pvp as dps meaning respec ! Please bioware this is an essential. Thank you.

bump! Need more signs to happen.

bump, get this idea back on front!

Yer then after the 20th time they had left their PC in hope something would happen whilst they posted vids on youtube about SWTOR being exploited or even watched TV. I cannot even imagine how you could come to performing such act. I mean even knowing "oh this game has a faction imbalance, lets contribute to it more by making this ops group of republic reroll imperial". Sorry but you are ruining the game for yourselves. We are not animals. We know what is morally right and wrong so you cannot blame bioware for this. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN BLAME BIOWARE FOR THIS. If you were however a dog and there was a piece of steak left out accidently by someone and it was lying on the floor you cannot blame the dog because he knows no better. But WE DO! PLEASE STOP ACTING PRIMITIVE! Don't bash me aswell for bringing morals into this but if you waste someones time, and usually most people's only free time they have before they must sleep and go to work, then it is considered immoral. Thank you.

SORRY BUT WHAT? OH MY GOSH NERD RAGE INC FROM ME! You saying the people that got camped "engaged" in pvp. Get off now!

wow this guy is getting so annoying! I want to punch him. Quite frankly everyone that was involved in the anti-social behavior of camping republic spawn points, preventing them from even teleporting back to the fleet needs to be taught a serious lesson. It may only be a game but you wasted alot of people's time camping their supposed "safe zone". But that is not the reason why bioware is "punishing people". They are quite simply only going to remove the valor you incorrectly gained. Yes that's right, don't attack me for it, you gained the valor wrongly according to bioware. You gained it in the way bioware thought it shouldn't be gained and exploited the system. They are just going to correct their mistake by fairing all valor out again. Don't cry about it. Bioware are fixing a mistake they made and for you to say "no it wasn't a mistake. I deserve that valor" is completely false since they admitted it was a mistake. There is no way anyone can justify keeping the valor. Thank you.

It doesn't have to involve credits. Just rankings to prove who is the best player. I guess players can make private gambling games but not because bioware included it. Same with anything tho. People bet with duels etc whether or not it is allowed. Just don't put gambling in intentionally !

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Like I said earlier: Quite frankly everyone that was involved in the anti-social behavior of camping republic spawn points, preventing them from even teleporting back to the fleet needs to be taught a serious lesson. It may only be a game but you wasted alot of people's time camping their supposed "safe zone". But that is not the reason why bioware is "punishing people". They are quite simply only going to remove the valor you incorrectly gained. Yes that's right, don't attack me for it, you gained the valor wrongly according to bioware. You gained it in the way bioware thought it shouldn't be gained and exploited the system. They are just going to correct their mistake by fairing all valor out again. Don't cry about it. Bioware are fixing a mistake they made and for you to say "no it wasn't a mistake. I deserve that valor" is completely false since they admitted it was a mistake. There is no way anyone can justify keeping the valor. Thank you.

Quite frankly everyone that was involved in the anti-social behavior of camping republic spawn points, preventing them from even teleporting back to the fleet needs to be taught a serious lesson. It may only be a game but you wasted alot of people's time camping their supposed "safe zone". But that is not the reason why bioware is "punishing people". They are quite simply only going to remove the valor you incorrectly gained. Yes that's right, don't attack me for it, you gained the valor wrongly according to bioware. You gained it in the way bioware thought it shouldn't be gained and exploited the system. They are just going to correct their mistake by fairing all valor out again. Don't cry about it. Bioware are fixing a mistake they made and for you to say "no it wasn't a mistake. I deserve that valor" is completely false since they admitted it was a mistake. There is no way anyone can justify keeping the valor. Thank you.

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/signed

I'll start this fail thread then with a /sign

bumP! This needs to HAPPEN!

Don't lower the mount level because that was WoW biggest mistake. Mount is something to work towards and making it lower means people wont appreciate it and people will have less incentive to get higher so they quit from boredom. Anyway - I would love the idea of being able to replace your starship with one you can build yourself, change the colour of starship or even your mount. I would also love the idea of dying your armor. So you can mix different colours to make your armor look unique. Also I think being able to build droids would be cool. Companion driods or w/e that you can make to your preference E.G If you want someone that has scavenging critical you can make droids, reverse engi untill you get the schematic for the droid you want with the scavenging critical. Maybe even make combat droids.

Already done. I went on a trooper starship and I am consuler.

:sy_galaxy: /sign if you want pazaak :sy_galaxy: Hello Pazaak, an ancient game dating back to Old Republic times, was a popular card game in which the goal was to reach 20 without going over, or at least come closer to it than the opponent. The player with the nearest sum to the number 20 won the round, and the player who won three rounds won the match. If in one round the scores of the two players were equal, the round was not counted at all. Gameplay During the time of the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War, pazaak rooms were found in almost any cantina in the galaxy. There are two different decks in pazaak: the main (or "table") deck, composed of cards numbered 1-10 (the total cards in this deck is unbound, though it tended to have four of each number). There was also one side deck for each player in the game. These decks would be assembled by the players themselves and had to have exactly ten cards. At the beginning of the game, each player would randomly select four cards from their side deck, making up their Hand. Each player draws a card from the main deck, with the highest card determining who is first player. Then the first turn of the first player would start. The player would draw a card from the main deck and play it on the table. After that, the player could choose to either place a card down from their hand, or to end their turn. Only one hand card can be played per turn, and no more cards are ever drawn from the side deck. When ending his turn, the player had two options: End Turn: If the player ends their turn, they are bound to draw a new card from the main deck at the start of the next turn. This is repeated until either they stand, go bust, fill the table, or their score is exactly 20. Stand: If the player stands, they keep their current sum till the end of the set and do not play any other cards. The opponent, however, can still continue playing cards, unless he has chosen to stand as well. Getting a sum of 20 automatically causes a player to stand. Once his turn was over, play moves to the next player, and their turn is played in the same manner. Play passes between the two players until someone wins the set. The winner of the set is then first player for the next set. In the case of a tie, whoever was not first player for the tied set, is the first player for the next set. The cards There were two decks used in pazaak: The Main Deck consisted of four sets of cards numbered 1-10 The Side Deck consisted of ten special cards chosen by the player before the match. At the start of each set, four of these cards were chosen at random for the player to keep in his hand and play at any time he desired. The side deck also had a variety of cards, and each deck was unique to the player in that he could purchase different types of cards throughout the galaxy and choose whichever ones he preferred to keep in his hand. There were two types of such cards: Plus and Minus cards, which were blue and red, and Advanced cards, which were gold. Main Deck cards were green, or in some older cases gold. Plus Cards were blue cards that added the written value to a player's total when played. The value of the cards ranged from 1 to 6 points. Minus Cards were red cards that were similar to the plus cards, but instead they subtracted their value from the players total. They also ranged from 1 to 6. Plus or Minus Cards (+/-) were essentially a combination of the two; the player could choose upon play whether he wanted to add the number or subtract it from his hand. These were the most expensive and highly valued cards. They also ranged from 1 to 6. The +/- 1 or 2 Card was a +/- card whose value could be changed to between 1 and 2. Flip Cards were advanced cards that changed the sign of the written number of all the cards in a player's table. For example, if a player played a 2&4, all the 2s and 4s on the table would become -2s and -4s, while all the -2s and -4s would become 2s and 4s. These cards were only available as 2&4 and 3&6. The Double Card was a rare card that doubled the value of the last played card. For example, if one flipped over 2, then a 9, he could play the double card, making the 9 an 18, thus adding up to 20. A player known as Mebla Dule gave the Jedi Exile this card after being beaten on Telos IV. The Tiebreaker Card was an extremely rare card that acted like a +/-1 card, but in the event of a tie, the player who played the tiebreaker card would win. A tiebreaker card was owned by the being on Nar Shaddaa known as the Champ until he gave it to the Exile after losing his position to the Jedi. The Side Deck was often the key to victory, as without his hand, a player relied solely on luck to win the match. Therefore, a player would have to conserve his cards, as the four side deck cards would have to last him through the entire match. Winning the game There were three ways to win the set: By outscore: After both players chose to stand, the player with the greatest score would win, provided that it was not over 20. By going bust: If a player ended his turn with a score over 20, he was said to "bust", and the other player won. By filling the table: In some rare occasions, if a player could place 9 cards on the table without busting, he would receive an automatic win, regardless of the total numerical value of either his or her opponent's cards. In the event that a set is tied, no one gets a point for the set, and a new set is played. The first player to win three sets won the game, and whatever was being wagered. Areas of play As a card game, pazaak could be played just about anywhere, but the most popular places to play were on ships during hyperspace transit, at the local cantina, or at special areas designated for play, such as the Pazaak Den in the Nar Shaddaa Refugee Sector. Alternate rules When played just to waste only time (and not money), pazaak players used Republic Senate rules, in which nothing was bet and no one came on top. The name was mockingly derived from the way that bureaucrats babbled on while taking no risks and accomplishing nothing. There was also a Nar Shaddaa version, in which the players removing clothing. Alternate uses Like all games, pazaak quickly became a form of gambling, and most players in the galaxy wouldn't even talk to someone before discussing the wager. Many people still played Republic Senate Rules, and Nar Shaddaa rules, for fun, however. A Force sensitive man known as Atton Rand often used pazaak to block out anyone who tried to read his thoughts; he would pretend to play the game in his mind, so that if anyone tried to read his thoughts, all they could see would be pazaak Source of information: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pazaak :csw_speeder: :csw_speeder: :csw_speeder: :csw_speeder: :csw_speeder: :csw_speeder: Why I am making this thread! Anyway lets get to the point. The reason I am posting this is because back in knights of the old republic this was an extremely enjoyable game against NPCs. I think personally this game can be placed into The old republic as a pvp element. Like valor there should be rankings for your ability in pazaak and there should possibly be pazaak dailies to gain more pazaak cards etc etc. You should be able to buy a deck from a cantina. Rankings: Each win rewards you with X amount of points to your rank. Every time you rank up you have the ability to access new cantina pazaak tables: E.G The imperial/republic fleet have pazaak tables for pazaak levels 1-10 and 91-100. You can duel players within your rank brackets on the selected tables in the fleets cantina. In between 10 - 90 there are brackets, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, 41-50, 51-60, 61-70, 71-80, 81-90. Each brackets has a specific cantina. E.G 11-20 would be the cantina on coruscant and so forth all the way up to the final cantina then back to the fleet. The reason why I suggest the brackets is so there is more use for the cantina's all over the star wars universe. There is a wider range of social hubs etc. Thank you.

lol, I guess I wasted my time with this. Pazaak obviously isn't as popular as I believed it to be. I enjoyed pazaak myself and to have such an amazing part of the star wars games ignored is just beyond me. I mean bioware c'mon it's barely anything to add a little card game to make use of the entire world you bothered to create.

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