I played a Rage Juggernaut at the start of swtor through Centurion gear then took a very long hiatus and just started playing again about 2 weeks before Makeb dropped. I stayed Rage, because that was familiar, and it's only too easy to jump smash crush throw jump yell choke smash someone. I've never tree'd into vengeance and I was wondering what the benefits were, if it's more fun to play, more viable in pvp, ect Also, save your tears about smash. As melee, going up against any ranged, I find myself slowed and stunned while getting shot to hell trying to close the distance just to get an attack or two off. PvP is not as unbalance as you people seem to want to make it. Keep the jabs to a minimum and hook me up with some solid info. v/r, The Darksaber Legacy