Hahaha, I love this. Convinced with one line.

I'm not saying it's unrealistic, but each universe has its own rules. Achilles can get away with what we would call mass murder today and still be a hero. Beowulf can become king and not only be a great hero as well, but by the rules of his own universe, because he is a great hero. By SW universe rules, the JK has to be tempted by the dark side in order to actually go for the throne. The path of the light side as presented by the game is that if you try to take over an Empire and sit on a throne, you're doing it wrong (applies to this universe too). And I'm not saying that this is not very interesting from a storytelling point of view. It's as if Paplatine was trying to tempt Luke in the Death Star II by offering him his position as Emperor instead of trying to fuel his anger and taunting him to strike him down -- temptation by desire for power instead of temptation by anger. What I'm actually saying is that the Outlander story is not a very good fit for the LS Jedi Knight storyline, because the JK in his strictly LS options rejects any offers of power consistently.

I've jumped on nice things available for direct purchase. If everything was not behind a gamble-box gate, I'd be buying stuff off the Cartel Market regularly. Seems most people would. But alas....

If they really wanted us to be prepared, they should have the player character change into THIS every time they went to bed. Thing looks like it's designed to take a cannonball, and it's not noticeably more ridiculous than outfits the game has had me wake up with.

Hardly a major concern -- more of a pet peeve, although I'm sure everyone can agree that watching the characters wake up in heavy armor with large knobs and spikes sticking out is beyond ridiculous. I assume it was in the last chapter? Because if so, she's studying the holocron, completely ignoring you. Maybe she didn't even notice you were there until you jumped out of bed (in those oh so comfie clothes).

Yeah, I picked that. Also, I believe the very first thing you say as a SI when you find Valkorion in your head in Chapter 2 is something like, "hey, now there's a ghost I've always wanted for my collection". But considering how uniquely suited the only living Force Walker is for Valkorion's plan, these mentions feel... weak, you know? You sit on the throne pretty damn triumphantly before that. Doesn't Senya tell you "you deserve this"? A perfect moment for a power-hungry Force-user either teetering on the edge of the dark side under Valkorion's corrupting mental influence or fully immersed and hiding it from his allies Palpatine-style. But for the selfless LS JK who was never even tempted? Ugh. My JK is a pretty straight-shooting, loyal-to-the-Order type of guy, and I can't see a universe where having him on a quest to take over an Empire is not taking a massive dump on the character, and especially that moment when he plants his butt on that throne that felt so right on my Sith. Saying that you want to take over an Empire "for the greater good" is nasty nasty nasty stuff, "work sets you free"-level nasty, and peer pressure don't make it any less so. It'd be just sad to watch my JK go down that path, which is why I'm reluctant to do KotFE with him.

During KotFE and KotET cutscenes, my character keeps getting up from bed fully clothed, gloves, boots and all, sometimes with armor pieces that got some spikes I'm pretty sure would fatally injure you if you lay on them in bed. Is there some practical reason for this? Could it be fixed in some perfect universe where it was considered a problem? I used to find that so annoying during the main story that I went back, emptied all the armor slots, and re-initiated the cutscene. I know that sounds slightly insane, but it really %$ing bugged me to watch that guy get up out of bed with those %$ing shoulderpads. In KotFE-KotET, that ain't even an option.

The whole thing with the LS JK works great until, for me, it collapses when you actively go after the throne, IF there's any pretense that you do it as a "peacekeeper" who wants to "protect" the galaxy. That's some iffy $%!& right there. Seriously, that's messed up. Now, if the Jedi Knight progressively grows to desire power, first with the Alliance and then with the Eternal Throne, that'd make for an interesting story. Especially with the "starting to actually feel like you're invincible" angle I mentioned before. Also factor in Scourge and the seeds he tried to plant (along with everyone else inflating the JK's ego). It should be fun to try that on my JK, but I doubt all the dialogue options will be on my side, as the straight JK I've played so far may start randomly threatening bodily harm on people he met two seconds ago....

Oh, I killed the Emperor big time on my JK, when I generally picked mostly LS options. I found it very insulting to my intelligence that, coming to a point when Vitiate lies fatally wounded, the LS option would be, "come to the light". Seriously? I rained ceiling spikes on that guy without a moment's hesitation that it was in accordance with the good side of the Force. I also let Bengel Morr go on his merry way (and got a "Dark Jedi Lightsaber" for it), not because he promised he'd give me stuff (who'd believe that guy), but because I just felt that the dude had a right to his opinion on how the Jedi should use the Force and wasn't that into laying my infuriating moralistic Jedi spiel on him that particular morning. The LS option is, I believe, to hand him over to the Jedi to be "reconditioned" into following the right path. Awesome. The light side of the Force is into some Manchurian Candidate $%!& apparently. I was referring to selecting all or most DS options from the start on the JK. Selecting exclusively DS or LS makes the player character seem idiotic on any class, and is often inconsistent on top of that. Some times, you have to click on what makes sense and disregard the obnoxious symbol on the wheel. But realistically, the Jedi Order would notice that you've clearly gone over to the dark side and kick you out at some point if you were to do Tython to Corellia with DS-only options.

The dialogue choices generally offer an option to put Valkorion down, dismiss him as a threat while tooting your own horn. I always picked those. One bit of dialogue has the player character claiming that all of Valk's power is illusory. I like the angle that the Outlander genuinely feels that Valkorion is harmless without a body. Obviously, any Force-using class ought to know better, any class that did Revan on Yavin 4 and Ziost ought to know better, but it kinda works with a megalomaniacal SI who thinks Valkorion is just another ghost he can fully control. That dialogue choice also works well with the JK, considering how comparatively easily he beat the Sith Emperor back in the day (and how the latter relied entirely on Force illusions in that fight), among all the other Mary Sue-ish impossible missions he breezed through.

Well, the Alliance was put together by Lana, a Sith Sorcerer. Everyone follows her because she's very diplomatic and convincing. You make a good point, that playing the Outlander as a rabid animal-style "I eat corpses" Sithly Sith doesn't work. You need to be manipulative, which is why I chose mostly light side options when people were looking and dark side when people weren't (except Saresh, which proved me right, because everyone in the Republic loved the Outlander for publicly executing her). Again, what's the class best suited for being manipulative and taking over an Empire? The one modeled on Palpatine. SI. The serial killer-type Sith is more the Sith Warrior storyline. Also, what's Valkorion's class? Again, Sith Sorcerer. Valk's a strictly-come-lightning kinda guy, doesn't even have a lightsaber. Did we ever see Valkorion use the Force when possessing non-Force-sensitives? I guess if we did, it'd be on Ziost. If he can do that, then even non-Force-sensitive classes would work fine. But why risk everything on possessing some person who isn't driven to rule your Empire, doesn't have the same skills as you (Sith Sorcerer skills) and isn't known to host multiple spirits in his/her skull? Yes, you're right about the throne. But their solution was a "have your cake and eat it too" kind of middle ground where you're still the big boss of the Eternal Alliance, a major power player in the galaxy with armies at your command, only you don't actually sit on a throne.

But you get to sit on a throne, right? Not much Jedi left when you sit on a throne and command armies. If you play your Jedi straight, as in following the Code and always deferring to the Council, taking over a freaking Empire would never be an option. Which is why they should have let you hand it back to Arcann. If you're really the forgiving soul that LS JK is written to be, you would go that far with your forgiveness, but you'd never want to sit on a throne.

Hey, how about a break from RNG talk, here's what I realized about the KotFE-KotET storyline: So, Valkorion's plan is revealed to have been, "My kids are way too strong to take on, any time now they're going to betray me, so I need to hitch a ride in someone's skull ASAP". He's foaming-at-the-mouth crazy, so I'm not going to go into how his plan is nonsensical and insane. Now, the plan kind of works quite well with the JK, who is, well, very much OP, known for doing the impossible, an all-around trustworthy Mary Sue, and has actually killed Valk before. But why would a Jedi end up as Emperor? Ruling an Empire may not be against the Jedi Code, but desire to do so sure is. So, OK, a JK gone dark works, but gone dark after thawing from carbonite as the Outlander, 'cause darkside JK in main storyline is completely implausible and nonsensical (Satele Shan and the Jedi Council go along with a murderous psychopath as the new great hero of the Jedi Order, seriously?) But no one besides the SI is better for Valkorion's plan because he's the only ghost-eating Force Walker around. If Valkorion needed someone who A) was desperate to rule the Eternal Empire and B) was definitely going to host his spirit without problems, why bother with anyone than the Inquisitor? The fact that the Force walking ritual is not mentioned during KotFE as a kind of important feature of the SI Outlander story is weird, and to me says that they didn't want to ruin the story for the other classes. But even with the milquetoast mentions we got, SI still is the one that fits. So that's why I've been reluctant to play through KotFE-KotET with my non-SI alts. Am I totally wrong? I can't see how non-Force sensitives are anywhere near viewing distance of plausible, but maybe the justifications for some of the other classes work, especially the Sith, because the good guy wanting to be Eternal Emperor is just... why?

I loved that aspect of the original storyline. It's just vile if you pick the right options. She's naïve and lost, and this nasty bigtime Sith guy is just taking advantage of her. It's even better with dark side corruption making the SI look like a week-old corpse as he pretends to be her Prince Charming. Lana and the SI are a perfect match obviously, but a strategic marriage with Acina would basically result in the two of them ruling half the galaxy, which any proper Sith would dump Lana for.

I haven't played my Warriors beyond Tatooine/Alderaan, and on my main, I try to get every companion I can. But when I got the Broonmark mission and I selected the option that basically said, "I get it, you're insane, but would you just cool it a bit so we can talk", it went, "blood kill kill blood" and attacked me. I guess the writers kind of embraced the various companions' personalities instead of having them be too malleable to player choices. But it's weird that I'll have to be saddled with that thing on the Warrior storyline.