This has probably been brought up many times, however, I just came back to the game after many months of GW2 and it feels like the skills on all republic classes have a delay of sorts or in simple terms take longer to perform or get off. Anyone care to shed light?

Lol you must pvp with a lot of bads then because those screenshots are everywhere. nowhere was i saying your bad though. all i was pointing out is you say that you are good and if this is the case and you are then imho 800k>400k means class is lacking

No what is really funny is you did 400k. This is probably due to how stupid easy it is to shake off an OP. why dont you check some PT/mara/Sorc/Sin screenshots who have less to 0 deaths and rack in double what you just did.... and your suppose to be burst. dont believe me? heres a screenshot for ya then. http://s1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii489/ephex01/?action=view&current=Screenshot_2012-04-14_14_57_02_826377-1.jpg

I lol'd so damn hard. You disregard these people's arguments about DPS with screenshots of HEALING numbers. You say we are not broken as a dps class because the class can heal? That argument makes no sense and is invalid. Just because the class can heal now doesnt prove that dps is fine. You may wanna get on topic before re-posting. TY

i ment it as in meters hense me asking prior to that who was on the pts besides me... l2read an l2comprehend... your 700k is invalid because it took 2 healers to help u get it come at me with a legit screenshot.

show me where i demanded numbers and in reference in the post your refering too i said with a difference in pyro from AP like a meter. your showing me numbers with 2 pocket healers and your asking me to throw the same thing out without such healers..... your argument is invalid come at me with a post with no healers bro

real mature... now like i apparently said according to you, show me a screenshot of your dmg... not 2 healers carrying you because your so damn squishy

exactly think about what your saying dude. you had pocket healers... i didnt an did 600k. if i had pocket heals i could eaily hit 700-800k easily... like i said b4 play the spec your comfortable with. and yes pyro is insane but if played right i can do just as much as pyro. and just because YOU havnt done it in AP means it cant be done? it happens good try tho

agreed iv hit 550-620k before... cant say i have hit 700k cus i would be a terrible liar but i also didint run with 2 pocket healers when i hit 600k and i go against teams that are full BM doing over 200k unlike that guy. like iv said pyro is insane burst but iv been in and gone through a whole rotation without hitting a proc on RS... it all comes down to relying on RNG which i prefer not to do. i can still hit many 3-4ks easily in streams which keep my sustained dps on par

Uh huh... The reason im never on the PT forums is due to the fact i felt they were pretty set in stone an had no opinions in them til 1.2 hit the floor. There is no fact that pyro is better. show me some numbers please. you like to insult what you believe to be inteligence as to support your "theory"... im not arguing im stating an opinion that Ap is on par. if you disagree thats fine yet i constantly catch myself beating them and vise versa. come back when you can make a legit argument bud

assumptions are pathetic... if you think we have no utility you probably ( not assuming you dont) dont have a PT. and like i said i bring just as much dmg to the table as a pyro yet dont rely on procs.... as i stated b4 i think both are very good just Ap fits my playstyle and i down ppl just as fast an die just as little. dont assume **** it make you look stupid

Pyro Fanatics are all the same... Everyone runs one just because someone did good with it an they force themselves to believe its the only viable on par spec

Im gona disregard this whole thing because you assume too much off the bat... who said i dont have a PT? are you basing that off me saying i think AP and pyro are on par? and pyros numbers are better? show me numbers an ill show you some form of respect but your just going off your own oppinion. Im sorry but in my case i destroy pyros i can last through that burst yet keep dishing it. im sorry you wernt able to play AP better than you can pyro. most likely due to your playstyle fitting pyro more. but dont come at me with boggus BS saying the "numbers" are better for pyro. you dont have a meter and iv seen some legit pyros lose to me in overall dmg and 1v1's. like i said it was my oppinion not a solid fact. your preaching of facts that arnt proven. come back when you can come at me with something more solid because I am however on the PTS.

wow... im glad your done then. this is the first time iv ever posted in a PT forum but apparently im always getting hammered... placing fake knowledge to make your points valid is sad... and yes you brought 1.2 up with AP changes you you say this isnt about 1.2 its about live and critisize us for responding to your remark? ok then... like i stated b4 I think pyro is fine an shouldnt change yet i find AP to be on par with the string of 3.7-4.6ish k hits that never stop and the utility... if pyro suits you then by all means roll it. Im a fan of saying play what suits your playstyle. But the moment you became a hypocrit and denounced everything you said you made your point invalid... have a nice day while leaving as you said you would

And your a hypocrit if that is the case because you originaly brought 1.2 into this saying my self heal was gone.... but as of live its still here and kicking and you have shown nothing to prove pyro is better... im sorry but you keep overlapping your previous posts

think before you speak are the words that come to mind... i never said i have heat issues as pyro.. i said it can occure more than AP. if your procs hit then yea youl be set but if not you have to have fillers which will overheat pyro in seconds. like you said if u think 5k is burst your wrong. ok lets go with that. then what does it matter if i need an adrenal or not im throwing steady avg of 3.8k-4.7ks out no adrenals and just keep spamming withj no worries to heat. you have to rely on those procs or you are useless and you think pyro is better? ok by all means... and in regard to your "I own every Ap easily as pyro". name the realm ill gladly coem show you whats up. like i said pyro is fine so dont twist my words. i never said which was better just which i prefered and its bennifits. Maybe its you who are playing AP like a monkey smashing his face on a keyboard that makes people think AP is bad?

1. are you on the pts? 2. I am 3. Show me how pyro has more burst with your charts/meters...oh wait there isnt any 4. pyros burst is great but as soon as u get it you have over heated an rely too much on rapid shots. 5. ap burst is just fine. i could care less about railshots cd. i like how u name no-brainer percs to ap yet leave so many out. with my heatmanagment being better i can get 2 4-4.5k crits off with just Immo and RP and thats a total of 8 heat. yea my RP is free like your railshot. after that i have railshot which will auto crit meaning 65 percent more dmg to it pluss the dmg from tank talents pluss 60 armor pen. my RP has 30 percent more crit as well 6. i take 20 percent less dmg when stunned 7. i heal when i use vent heat which is all i use it for seeing as i rarely if ever need it 8.i have 10 seconds off my stun... 9. i have a 6 not 8 second interupt 10. the only burst you have on this class is you can get a 5k hit MAYBE of your TD for 25 heat while i can adrenal/relic a 5k easy with Immo which is 8 followed by a sick RP that is free. Im not here to say pyro is bad. by all means it is good....but imho AP burst is on par with it with more utility to save your arse

I, Like you, run advance prototype spec. i find that the heat managment is way superior to pyro. I know that there are many ppl who will swear to pyro for the burst but i dont have a problem with burst as it is. they can get a 5k TD hit butother than that they rely heavily on prced railshots. this is boring an lame imho. as AP my Immo will hit 3.5-4.3k which is very decent. my RP will hit for 3.3-4k which is very good as well and that leaves me with 100 heat still.. i use Rb to get my 100 percent crit on RS if not already proced and railshot also hits for 3.6-4.5k easy. then i have flame burst for a filler but by then Immo is ready to go as is RP. The percs however outweigh pyro imo. immunity to cc. vent heat heals reduced cd on my cc and 6 sec interupts. however the spec u run i have to question... as a pt i find myself always moving so i never really use flamethrower so the 2 points for it should be put into finishing SA and the 2 percent mitigated dmg is about useless imho. 2 percent is nothing and would better suit u in a lower cd on ur cc. just my thoughts though. i run 8/31/2 Edit: I also dont use combust in the tank tree. i go for aim to increase my bonus dmg

any leads to when 1.2 hits?

Regardless Imho you have to play your strengths. As an op of course im not a ball runner i have **** to no def cds so what do i do? i take out key players sense we are so strong in 1v1. So this leads me to tag along the ball carrier to beat down ppl who get on him. after this i can stealth ahead and set up for an easy pass for a score. If you choose not to play your advantages then so be it... easy pickings for me. The only prob i have come accross while playing my op is the energy regen can become a hassel and the 2 min cd on our "vanish"

Yes you caught me! you sit behind him in class and watch him play his baddie sorc >.<

is anyone else tired of reading this trolls crap? the other people posting against the OP at least are throwing **** on the table to make their arguments viable. you however sit here and preach about how horribad the OP is.... do you know him? do you do WZ's with him? i doubt it... then you bring this garbage in about premades... sir let me reinstruct you on what a premade is. A premade is a full team of a group of people who coordinate with each other and typicaly win agains pugged groups... in case you havnt logged in in a while you can only grp as four. you could have another grp group and q at the same time as you but u have a 50/50 chance of getting the same WZ. I agree with the OP i feel that we are fine but i can see where we lack or got the **** end of the stick... but when all is said an done we function pretty good imho

oh yes i have a blast with my ops. Its playstyle is by far my favorite but you are correct i dont have a full set of pvp gear yet but ill keep that in mind about the gear

Oh sir by no means was ai disregarding our usefulness. we can be very viable. i remember we cleared the right door on void star and we were capping and all of them came bounding at us so i flashed them all which got us the cap. my only problem which could be a lack of skill is my dmg output. yes imo sorcs are easy but depending on your playstyle might not be for others. when i get on an assasin or jugg or powertech it seems my dmg is crap. i have many recources for certain occasions like everyother class yet when it comes to classes like that i have nothing to really break through it seems like. my best bet in huttball while chasing their ball carrier is to lock him up in the fire

though i completely agree with you on most of your topics i have to correct you and say you can sleep ppl in warzones i do it all the time happy hunting