I think both dps specs in regards to PVP are much better off then you give them credit. leth when played correctly loses in damg only to snipers and smashers. leth also can create tons of advantage by dotting up 2-4 targets at once to to give your smashers options for kills. the issues i find that need to be addressed 1. dots breaking CC... id like either our talent make it so all CC isnt broken by out leth dots or give us something to "recall" our dots and perhaps gain a small energy gain or something. 2. conc needs a better energy flow. this can be resolved simply by looking at the costs of the attacks. 3. hidden strike usable during sneak or auto crit has to happen. or just improve the system for getting out of combat. 4. also expl probe usable by conc not crouched would be pretty nice. we could def use some work but i do think a good player will always be able to make the specs work fine.

ive heard him in vent. he cares not for your suffering. he only wants to hurt people.

Don't flag and don't get killed. If somehow you are dumb enough to flag then you deserve to be killed. Also just heroic and use leg attacks and I'm sure you'll be ok qt pie.

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i agree with this except with leth being listed as worse then conc. a good leth opt can churn out HEAPS of damg. and has as good if not better burst then conc. the issue with leth is most players cant play the spec cause it is a challenge to play correctly. that said in rated right now its all about pyro PT/ vans, sents/maras, opt healers and hybrid shadows/sins with a peppering of hybrid/rage juggs. wtb a nice balancing patch and Xrealm ques. it prob to late to save this game from MoP and GW2 but i still have hope.

veng immortal is the best spec currently for juggs. obv people will play what they like but overall it is the best spec.

been 50 for 4 days on my opt. i heirloomed the WH sniper mods into a bowcaster. bought WH trinkets. and ive gotten 3 BM peices. other then that its rc gear. 1146 expt. Playing leth. it took me 2 WZs to get my first unbeatable. 4 to get invinc. i had 3/10 games tonight i broke 400k damg. all 250+ if youre good and you have 1100+ expt you should do fine.

only crits and internal damg cannot be shielded. all other damg can be. in fact our offhand shield can proc while your stunned or CCed. a friend of mine who plays immortal in rated runs with shield rating and absorb setup. hes got a 48% chance to proc and a 40ish% something absorb rating. with CDs and a single healer hes close to unkillable.

great for leveling. bad for raids. veng is just so much better at sustained dps that it doesnt compare. i hear rumors about a hybrid spec being played that dips into rage to get oblit. thats about as good as rage will get for raiding tho.

hey man! atm theres a few specs you can play. rage= insane good burst and great slows, Full vengance = great single target damg and untility, Full Immortal= great control but lacks damg, and hyrbid= a few types, more commonly 16/25/0 are built to have good control/damg and survival. it comes down to how you like to play. if you want to live forever play hybrid. if you want to do tons of damg go rage. if you want to do decent damg and utility go vengeance. if you want to keep people alive and control the temp of a game go immortal. as for the "best spec". my moneys on rage. it can do enough of the other specs all the while being the best for damg.

id argue that rage is in fact the harder to play at top levels then veng. positioning is everything with the spec. you have more to think about then veng. more CDs to manage etc. veng has a few talents that are nice but overall lacks in rated play. you will never solo a decent healer as veng. you will be better 1v1 vs most classes. but rateds, unlike reg WZs, you shouldnt ever be 1v1ing. it comes down to which spec you like more. personally i dislike all of the pure warriors specs. i play rage cause it can do the most of what i want to do without being gimp. any good warrior will do well with veng. that same warrior will just do BETTER with rage.

mara rage is just as strong as jugg rage. carnage is best overall, but there are def good rage maras out there. the cool things they can do with the other tress plus they can survive much better then juggs can make the work really well for them.

the only reason to spec veng atm is unstoppable. its the only thing making the spec decent. otherwise its an easy to deal with spec. your dots will be cleansed off, your burst will be low enough for any ave healer to counter, and your utility is shared with the two other specs. I've logged very large amounts of time playing 3 specs, Rage, pure veng and veng/immortal hybrid. and in my current servers meta rage>hybrid>veng. you just don't have the push that you need to kill people if they are good. rage def has issues against good players(see timely knock backs etc), but if you are good you know how to overcome these. veng has a very straight forward design. ramp up to high DPS though maintaining a rotation with dots. any good team will drag out this ramp time to the point you're ineffective. the only shining moments is when you play derp players that don't know what the purple stance on your buffs means and spam you with lightning and other slows. if you want unstoppable i suggest 16/25/0 or 18/23/0 (both with the tank 2 set bonus). the spec plays nicely with a good upfront damg. an AMAZING 50 sec CD combo that wrecks a healer. all of the defensive CDs. and all the while be guarding and playing like a tank.