That's not it man, the design encompasses the Havoc symbol, I think, but is much more elaborate than that, here check out this video, you see exactly what i'm talking about at 7 seconds in, there's a closeup on the design itself, but it's so damn blurry what exactly it is cannot be discerned

What's up Havoc Squad, hey you guys have seen that little piece of artwork on the side of the cockpit of our ship? What IS it?? I have to know, it's always kinda blurry when seen in game, but it looks like it might be pretty damn cool. Whatever it is, I want it on a T-shirt like yesterday. If anybody knows what this thing is, or especially has a link to a larger, more detailed picture of it, please post up and let me know.

Sweet baby Jesus, this thread has gotten this far, it's a year later and they STILL haven't included a hood toggle. They gave us the faux hood toggle, "hide headgear" or whatever that makes our hoods disappear off our robe completely and apparently thought that was going to satiate our bloodlust, haha! Sorry guys, not gonna happen. Bioware I hope you realize by now we are gonna stay in your asses about this until we can put our hoods down the same way pretty much every Jedi NPC on Tython can do. Y'all gave us a taste of this with the Cartel Market robes, but what'd you do there? We can't put the hoods back UP on those! You guys have the technological savvy to be able to model, texture, rig and animate...CORUSCANT, but can't make robes where you can put the hood UP and put the hood DOWN. Hood UP, Hood DOWN. Yes, some of us understand that this is merely a cosmetic issue and that you guys spending more time fixing game mechanics is probably higher on the totem pole of priorities, but it's been over a YEAR. You guys could have had this knocked out by now. What with the release of the new movies coming in the next few years, Star Wars is going to get VERY big all over again. If you guys want to be able to cash in on that with this game, I highly recommend doing what Blizzard seems to do considerably better than you guys and give your players what they want, big and/or small, before your game implodes. Please do, because I thoroughly enjoy this game and would like to see it last quite some time. While I'm here, I'd also like to take this time to say that I personally would also like to see some LONG SLEEVE style robes. I bet you guys can figure that out too. http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9797/robes3.jpg http://img239.exs.cx/img239/9162/malerobes6bg.jpg

Multiple times you've seen this? That's a goddamn shame man, we should talk about THIS

Dude, please show me a link to this thread where the Devs say they are going to fix it, cause they haven't shown me **** lately that says they really care enough about little things like that to fix them. Especially after they've already got your money for them.

Hahahaahahah

dude, please link to me where Bioware has stated that they are going to fix the latest cartel pack items, cause they screwed up Revan's robes pretty bad, haha! I need to see this and know that it is going to be fixed

I just made a new Consular character so i'm back on Tython....ever single bloody NPC, every single one, with a hood down, which is damn near all of them, have the hood draped down their backs... Bioware, come on now, really? We will be in your *** about this until this matter is FIXED!

I am actually okay with the shoulder fluff, hahah! So, come on guys does anybody know of any robes that look like this in the game, maybe not even same color just same model or something, anything, give me a lead, haha!

Not quite what i'm looking for man, that doesn't look like Revan's at all, haha, Lookin for THIS: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=swtor+Revan&um=1&hl=en&biw=1536&bih=762&tbm=isch&tbnid=JWTBVgHHewSf8M:&imgrefurl=http://perpetuallybored.com/tag/swtor/&docid=kmDaOYbr7XAiwM&imgurl=http://perpetuallybored.com/wp-content/uploads/swtor-2012-01-08-02-24-54-18.jpg&w=1920&h=1080&ei=j_kOUPOYA46y8QSt8oDABg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=407&vpy=163&dur=1591&hovh=168&hovw=300&tx=254&ty=119&sig=107620688512118122285&page=1&tbnh=104&tbnw=185&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:78 THIS: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=swtor+Revan&um=1&hl=en&biw=1536&bih=762&tbm=isch&tbnid=aHWmCDAZeouF7M:&imgrefurl=http://www.torhead.com/npc/c9WrgRq/revan&docid=X20WQQG9NEN90M&imgurl=http://tor.zamimg.com/torhead/uploads/images/7593.jpg&w=1375&h=1018&ei=j_kOUPOYA46y8QSt8oDABg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=945&vpy=207&dur=47&hovh=193&hovw=261&tx=129&ty=127&sig=107620688512118122285&page=1&tbnh=132&tbnw=176&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:0,i:131

What's happenin' gang, I'm currently playing on the Repub side, but I'm curious, is it possible to get the same Robes, gloves, etc, that REVAN has in this game? http://www.google.com/imgres?q=swtor+Darth+Revan&um=1&hl=en&biw=1536&bih=762&tbm=isch&tbnid=lN717hcEJbpSjM:&imgrefurl=http://darrita.deviantart.com/art/Darth-Revan-243184036&docid=BxJtyjSvuCPnVM&imgurl=http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/200/1/5/darth_revan_by_darrita-d40sa04.jpg&w=555&h=706&ei=x6ANUMWkEKbh0wHO39CKBA&zoom=1

Not yet, but you can bet your *** I'm bout to, haha!

Bioware, we KNOW you can read all this. I even made mention of it on my "Let's show bioware what we really want" thread. The general consensus is that we are in fact, NOT satisfied with the "hood toggle" that you've given us thus far. We appreciate that you guys are kinda sorta listening and actually put it in there but , once again, when we toggle it...our hoods are....just GONE. There are countless npc's with their hoods down, with the hood draped down their back, you guys post picture after promo picture of jedi with their hoods down, with the hood draped down their back. The Jedi in the damn character creation screen have their hoods down with it draped down their backs. This tells us that the actual 3d models of the gear are in game already. I'm sure y'all put in a lot of work for all this legacy gear and social gear this and that for the 1.3 patch, why is it that somewhere in there, y'all couldn't have been like, "we need to get these hoods draped down some backs here...." It really sounds ridiculous like, why would we be making such a big stupid deal about something so small? Maybe it's not so small, the devil is in the details remember. Most of us want that iconic jedi look, for example yet again: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=jedi+hood&um=1&hl=en&biw=1536&bih=762&tbm=isch&tbnid=oAd5GTCdObrROM:&imgrefurl=http://www.degraeve.com/jedirobe/&docid=SqxgcXj3WGELSM&imgurl=http://www.degraeve.com/jedirobe/nicetunic.jpg&w=430&h=331&ei=DzrrT_zFCoKy8ATWhMnWBQ&zoom=1 Oh and how about THIS for an example, straight up official bioware art: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=jedi+battlelord+armor&um=1&hl=en&biw=1536&bih=762&tbm=isch&tbnid=Uc1fcAUizLDGLM:&imgrefurl=http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php%3Fp%3D4586102&docid=YIouMcOfd3X7UM&imgurl=http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/41/540/deinthk51.jpg&w=1600&h=900&ei=NDvrT839Aob28wSM0IzyBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=525&vpy=269&dur=780&hovh=168&hovw=300&tx=129&ty=85&sig=107620688512118122285&page=2&tbnh=102&tbnw=182&start=32&ndsp=38&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:32,i:180 Look at that hood down! So you guys still wanna tell us this can't be done?

Nooo, it's pretty cool having a Jedi hood man, http://www.google.com/imgres?q=obi+wan+kenobi&num=10&um=1&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=923&tbm=isch&tbnid=agZIr3GsmTLLNM:&imgrefurl=http://steel11kane.blogspot.com/2012/04/1-obi-wan-kenobi-vs-2-yoda.html&docid=cS-u7gqUFcPBlM&imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YaW2vAM3ZrY/T5oaYZNiZFI/AAAAAAAAEkU/QlTxgCT72rs/s1600/1Kenobi.jpg&w=555&h=550&ei=oQnST_DFA4Ky8ATA6MTMAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=765&vpy=347&dur=289&hovh=223&hovw=226&tx=106&ty=85&sig=103676968116528451354&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=165&tbnw=160&start=0&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:166 We should just at least have the option to have the thing up or down at our leisure. If you don't like hoods at all, do remember you can also wear smuggler and trooper gear, haha! I was about to post up on here about the dude with his hood down again in the new content preview but y'all beat me to it. What in the blue hell Bioware, I'm sure giving us the hood down (and we can actually still see the damn thing on the back of our robe, you know, like in the movies we all know and love) option is much easier than, say, oh, I dunno, creating a new PLANET perhaps??

You know what's sad? Meanwhile, on the sith inquisitor forum.... http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=249908