Agreed! no offense to any Grim folks out there but they are not that great. i been in multi pug groups where they have gotten smooshed. they are good and thats why peeps need to join a good guild, understand that not everyone is PRO but we all gotta start somewhere. i actually like playing against them, there are just to many peeps out there that want a super cake win and don't want to work for it. then they play ****** teams and they own face and think they are all awesome, then they run into grim and they like awwww man this sucks i dont wanta play anymore. BAH!