you spelled the title incorrectly

Such a good tune , and I can kinda see it now you've mentioned it

yeah I tried for about 2 months to get a rated team together twice a week for scheuled ranked games. We had a fair run and would spend time each week in outlaws den practicing focus targetting, fire pulls, double pulls, sap caps etc in order to better our team... I tried my damnest to get US moving in the right direction with the help of a few notable others such as Fatkat and Totherkins. Unfortunately that team after the first month or so started to have issues with people dropping from the game and such left right and centre, then to the point where I myself had to take a break to focus on my job for a bit. At some point i may get my finger our and see if I can resurrect a team again with scheduled times but at the moment seeing I have just come back to the came the last couple of weeks I'm just playing it casual at the moment. But who knows, I may see you in ranked one day again. With regards to super queuing I don't actively go out my way to super queue peronally but I do know my guildies do do it on occasion, and my opinion is much the same as yours, I kinda understand why they do it but I don't pay their subs so I'm not about to tell them what to do. Although the metaphor you used isn't exactly flattering I do appreciate your feedback.

They are fairly different issues so comparing them both on a measure of "cheating" or not is a bit redundant. There are many many posts about this where members of US speak about their thoughts on this and it is argued at great length. You can refer to them on the issue. This thread had nothing to do with that. To be honest I'm a bit tired kicking a dead unicorn in regards to this argument. Basically it can be reasonably argued against and for by both sides to varying effects and will never truly be settled.

I understand what your saying. Personally however, from the evidence I can see from the video, I can't believe that there wasn't some intentions behind it. For example. lets say that it gave you invincibility and speed, why would you then proceed to jump backwards and forwards across the goal line to score 6 goals lol. Ofc you can't see that from the video but I highly doubt a piece of gear give you and "insta" win in huttball without some kind of input from the player and recognition of this. I am aware that this is a non issue now and I only brought this up as a side note to another argued point. I accept your points, have stated my opinions on it and really this doesn't really require much more discussion in my opinion.

If only all members of your guild could respond to posts in such a manner without starting a flame war. I take into account your point. I do find it rather hard to believe that absolutely nothing was amiss, however, If a helmet was a part of that It would not surprise me. Although it would not come as a surprise if this glitch was known and exploited for the purpose that it did indeed serve in that video.

You're kidding yourself if you think that was a glitch.

Lol I know the mechanics of a Jugg, my Jugg actually dinged 50 tonight I was referring to a video i saw that was posted in these forums where a speed hack is used CLEARLY showing 4/5 goals being scored in a matter of seconds. You all know what I'm referring to.

It really doesn't matter if you go back, deconstruct my posts bit by bit , point out all potential flaws in any comments I made or inferred to. You've already made yourself look unintelligent and petty in this thread without having to resort to a sad attempt to salvage what you have left of your ego.

If you don't want your stupid petty posts torn to shreds with reasoned arguments then don't start flame wars in threads that have nothing to do with you. I'l take that as a compliment to be fair, Neb is a rather intelligent debater on forums and is particularly helpful to players in the operative forums =P (OFC I know that's not what you meant but if your done flaming US on this thread then lets be done with it)

LOL now that's rather interesting cause I've seen some rather interesting youtube videos that show otherwise lol. But anyway I only brought that up to highlight the redundant and hypocritical things you posted.... Also... I read it. A lot of *******'s in it. I get it, you're complaining about super queues. I addressed that indirectly and directly in my post. So to be fair I could probably ask the same thing of you. Its rather interesting that you ask if I'm too stupid to understand what you post when you yourself seem too stupid to be able to post a coherent train of thought but instead splattered nerd rage over a thread that didn't warrant it and then peppered it with a lot of: you are all (insert disgusting remark here). So to make this simple for you; No I'm not too stupid to understand the post, but you seem to be too stupid to write your own posts effectively without resorting to making points that you can't justify when a candle is held to your own guilds actions. Along with resorting to petty insults and quite frankly comments that might offend people purely based on your lack of a more appropriate vocabulary alone.

LOL! HAHA can't believe i did that haha but yeah i meant burgandy LOL

So we are talking about the select actions of a few in a guild and ruining the game for other. This coming from the guild has been proven as harboring players who have actively hacked the game and been caught on video. Then you have the balls to say that because of what some of our members do we in fact ruin the game.Kettle? Pot? Lol I find that a rather funny concept. Not to mention the fact that some of your members actively /say abuse to our guildies who run in 4 mans when we reply purely with a "GG", win or lose. Stop sitting up on your ego imposed pedestal and realize that not every single person in Unicorn Stampede superqueues intentionally, we don't sit in mumble stroking each other (much like you guys do in these forums ) , in fact we had a karaoke session going on while we all levelled our lowbies tonight enjoying the double XP weekend! Coming from the GM of a guild i though you might have been capable of showing some restraint and not just utterly nerd raging in a post that has nothing to do with what you are talking about. stay classy dargos. On a more positive note, enjoyed playing with ya the night bradleey! Hurry up and get your backside to 50

Amazing observation: "he sounds more and more like Ron Jeremy with every post on the forums". Lol'd at that one.

Right here is your quote seeing as I apparently "didn't read it". I explained the whole 2 teams queuing facing each other thing. I explained how we queued 2 times a week for 3 hours apiece for about 6/7 weeks in January/February with what we dubbed Rank team echo which was basically toths team that I helped form. AND i disputed the Entire Guild Being "classless" as you put it. It's funny how I related more to your actual post than you did. Seriously, there is almost no point in counter-arguing your clearly redundant opinion as you refuse to make a reasoned response when I bring up legitimate points. If you're reffering to Troy as our GM you are very wrong also. Troy hasn't been GM of Unicorn Stampede for about 4 months or longer now. If you're going to make generalisations at least get some of the facts right.

Me and Toth formed a moderately sucessful ranked team that ran 1/2 times a week for 3 hours a time between 7/10 EST on wednesdays and fridays. We did not queue dodge once in all these games and probably won around 60-70% of our games. We played a full uncensored group once with our team at full strength to which it was a close CW 0-10 and then played you guys maybe another 3 or 4 times over the space of a month. granted we had to substitute alot of people in our team compared to our preselected main team at the time and lost the remaining games against you guys rather decisively. We queued consistently, sometimes being in the queue for an hour or more without a pop. I've seen you in regulars on your Gunslinger but for the whole 1/2 months we were queuing frequently with me and Toths team I don't remember seeing you in an Uncensored group. If you have an issue with a member in our guild crying take it up with them, not the entire guild. The queuing you are referring to was when we first came to the server and were gearing up an entire guild/faction by doing kickball style ranked that the reps then done a few months later. The only difference was we protected our kickball teams by not letting people in recruit gear go up against full WH QQ/LD50 premades to then get farmed and probably /say trashed talked and then probably reported for retaliating. I'm sorry you have such a poor perception of US as most people seem to have the same misconception but to be fair, it is probably one of the most chilled out fun guilds to be in on this server, they run event frequently and the mumble is hilarious. Just because some of our members get a kick outta trolling and sometimes go into epicnerdrage mode doesn't mean we all do.

Figure these probably won't be up for too long but whatever. Recently uninstalled my game so lost almost all my SS's but here is what I've done lately on my operative. 1345.8 hps - http://tinypic.com/r/px6oy/6 Overall Healing 1396361 - http://tinypic.com/r/2q3rdso/6 Eumelia also got 1399132 in that game (damn you ) I'm currently in the process of bringing my sorc Xilriso out of retirement seeing im now comm capped in anticipation of 2.0 on my op Xzil and plan to do the same on my sorc so will see what I can do with him over the next few weeks as been a good while since i played him much. We'll see.

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMhMZRcrrobfkds.2 If you do this spec and wear DPS gear (I know you said you wanted tank but still this is useful ) you can effectively play a somewhat similar role to a tankasin in dps. You can run in Ion Cell with the mods from a Genertor imported into a sheild to give you that base sheild/absorb/defense. this gives you the best of both worlds in regards to dps and survival. You can throw a guard on heals and have some usefull utility among: Barely taking dmg from smash due to high armor from ion cell and boosted aoe dmg reduction. you get hold the line for root and slow immunity you get a huge Conal slow which ticks for a lot of dmg, you get a spammable slow in the form of retractable blade. main things you'll miss will be your leap and a little bit of dmg reduction and hp. If you spec with some of the high endu dps mods and enhancements though you can strike a nice balance. I have seen some good players play this class of hybrid tank extremely effectively getting very high dps and protection numbers. The skill curve for this spec is quite high though and be prewarned that heat management will be critical. Hope this helps!

Pichon.

You sir just granted yourself a buff. It's called being auto-marked in every warzone by every forum Hero from here to eternity lol Also sorc/sages naturally have high HPS which is set to be furthered in 2.0, however if you look at the highest overall healing records across servers you'll notice that it is mainly scoundrels/operatives. Mainly due to as neb sorta pointed out that an op healer can sustain a higher hps better than a sorc. Also in addition most of the sorcs you outhealed in those screen shots were probably playing bubble spec from what i can gather so ofc you'ld have higher hps than them. Not to take away, that is sick hps in some of those games. but still.......we get it

I've never accused reps of super queuing. The main issue is that about once a week or so you get the "perfect storm" from reps. By this I mean that due to their being about twice as many rep guild there are times of the on specific days where it is almost impossible to avoid hitting some form of elite pub premade. And this was the case when I took the forums in a rather annoyed fashion. Fair enough, I have chilled a bit since then, touche. IMO opinion the best way BW can get around stopping the "perfect storms" is through cross server queuing to expand the pool of players. I mean there's nothing worse than getting utterly stomped by premades 5/6 games in a row which is why I was probably justifiably annoyed previously.

poking fun at unicorn stampede doesn't bother me lol. If it makes you happy I did prove my initial hypothesis wrong. I'm not getting hung up on that like you are though. Changing opinion based on evidence is just being rational. granted my former thread started in frustration due to constant premade stomps but something positive: (the fact that in a pug vs pug environment imps are actually more likely to win by a small margin which was unexpected. the fact that win/loss are in fact closer to even than most people expected.) has come out of it and if you feel I've wasted my time that's your opinion. But there is a tone of passive aggression in your posts that does warrant the: "u mad bro" approach.

1) They don't always win against pugs. (there's an entire thread about this in regards to US lol) 2) If you don't take anything from this then why are you so angry 3) I changed my opinion based on the evidence available. Apparently you have a problem with that lol. Considering it was I who gathered the data and indeed my initial hypothesis was proven incorrect however other interesting data did arise which i tried highlighting but you apparently don't want to hear about it Lol I have a lvl 50 scoundrel with a healthy rating and over 300 + rated games on Prop 5. It's more balanced over there IMO. And just to say. You are raging.... Don't deny it sweety wuahah

lol can anyone else literally feel the utter rage in these words haha. Well for a start I've proved you wrong lol There are more rep premades by a good amount if you take all the rep pvp guilds into account. The only reason Imps even come remotely close is because of the sheer numbers of Unicorn Stampede. But to be fair the majority of the wins overall come from imps winning in pug v pug matches. Whereas the majority of losses were because of Rep premades. I'll let you take from that what you will.

I figured someone would mention this haha, granted this introduces some bias but i tried to be as impartial as possible. A close win would be for example a huttball won by less than 3 goals. a decisive win would be more than 3 goals. an annihilation would be 6-0 with 8 minutes to spare. the same kind of scale applies to 450+-0 civils 100-0 novares etc. Of course I will admit that this introduces bias to some of the results and this is a potential flaw however, I tried my best to be as impartial with this scale as possible. But it is true that more often than not when you get rolled by certain rep premades the roll the hell outta you. There was a number of games where you would be spawn camped for example. These happen on imp side too, but not nearly at the same frequency.