lol, definitely undertuned!

Nah man, you aren't getting it. I have gotten 2620 gladiator in 3v3 in WoW, and I have played PvP in MMO for over 10 years. I love this kinda stuff, I love gaming and I love owning noobs. However, when I cannot kill one of the heals that is a laughing stock on my server it infuriates me. Just to let you know, I could play any class and own just as hard. It has nothing to do with the perfect class.

Just an update, I remodded everything and took some serious time testing this out for real last night. My stats are 1013 expertise, 76% surge, 34% crit, 750 power (with self buffs) NO adrenals or Relic* I can crit 4k+ish hidden strike, and 4k backstab on a Light armor no bubble* but my damage falls off drastically after this, then I am soon out of energy and useless once again... A grav round spammer hit our healer with 1200 expertise for 6567 (it killed the sorc but he told me that it hit for 6957). Not to mention ravages from warriors are hitting for half of someones life. I know I am a little sour, but yesterday 3 warriors charged me and smashed me for a total of 16k, 6k from marauder, 5k each from 2 juggernauts. This was 17k AOE damage mind you, within 5 seconds. People are sure fast to bash operatives, and operatives from QQing, but even if we could one shot someone again, that's what we are designed to do. We sure aren't running in and aoeing down 5 people at a time.

Agreed man, agreed, haha well said

Here is a video of the triple hidden strike... The times you got one shot by a op, most were doing this..... This needed to be nerfed, lol

I am going to re mod my gear tonight with what that guy said and I'll be fine, I guess I was using 65% surge multiplier I thought I was wearing more surge, I guess all the BM gear I was using was the wrong pieces of BM (the ones that changed during hte patch)... I was really hitting for like 3200 with HS, that is crazy.. Give me a break.... my opener gets negated and a almost following backstab by a bubble. If I can get said stats I will be able to murder anyone again, so this whole thread may have been pointless, lol

He did vanish and sap me and heal behind a pillar one of the rounds, but he was just nervous it was a long time rivalry and it was mainly just fun, i just wanted people to see that i know what im doing, im not retarded.... He is good, actually very good Plus 25 of the best pvpers on both pub and emp were watchin that fight, lol

Good call man, I'll do that tonight, Thanks a lot The war hero gear looks more itemized for us, I think we will be much better then... Still do not understand why they put accuracy on our gear... so stupid

I play my class and I know how to do everything just like you do. I dont know why you think I am a noob. I am just saying our powertech is pumpin 500-600k on voidstar still and I can barely hit 350k.... We are playing against like rated quality teams, with taunts and guards... Not some random pug noobs with 12k health and stuff like that, yes I can still 2v1 baddies, but I could do that on any class!

The energy is an issue! If we are going to take such drastic damage nerfs, then we need to be able to fight longer... I mean 2 rounds of backstabs I am running away for cover..... Thank you for people who are on my side for once

Okay i didnt know so many people were gonna start hitting this thread so hard, let me start by saying. I dont care what you think if all you are gonna do is talk ****. If you want to discuss stuff, I'm in. My spec was 3/31/7 in that video, and I respecced for the 1v1 tournament we had. I was against a tank assassin and the heal I used was the Tactical Advantage heal that was 1.5 second cast, it was not talented... Whoever said that is not aware of operative moves. My bonus dmg pre nerf was like 800 power full buffs, 76% surge 34% crit. Before patch my dmg was fine, I never needed to double hidden strike I could out play anyone and kill them, few players could take me down, in 1v1's, including marauders tanksins and very good sorcerer... all depending on cooldowns in a warzone. I never had to use double hidden strike to kill people, I killed people just fine, and I can kill people now, but I am useless now. The burst dmg is no where near there, a marauder is better assassin then me. As of now, i am using stock battlemaster gear (which stats suck) and I switched out half gear including 2pce rakata for 15% backstab (with 71 power / surge on it) with this gear I can hit 4k, on a CLOTHY with no bubble or defensive cooldowns up.. with hidden strike That video was just to show I am not a noob, I know what I am talking about. In that video my gear was not BiS

As one of the better concealment operatives around who has played for a long time, I am sad to say we got the nerf bat may be too much for me, I am already collecting my healing set. The ability to 3 shot someone was too much, do not get me wrong, we needed the 7.5 second hidden strike c/d, what was really op not many people even know about. Hidden strike was bugged before patch 1.2, if you would open with AB / Hidden strike and instantly vanish and hidden strike again your hidden strike would hit twice, that's right twice. So you would hit hidden strike a total of 3 times. Let me break this down for you pigeons, in BiS gear I had over 800 power, and a 52% chance to crit on my Hidden Strike... 5200+5200+5200 (with acid blade ticks 500ish 5 times in between) into a lacerate you were dead, no questions. With the BM gear (+ expertise changes) I did a 3200 hidden strike crit on a clothy and a 3k backstab. With my full rotation (including explosive probe) I had no chance killing someone that was NOT alone even with adrenal and relic..... I switched out gear got my crit surge back and lost 400 expertise, I hit a 4k hidden and a 4k backstab, but regardless, I continue to sit there and continue to hit and interrupt and cc and maybe I'll get a kill, but then once again I am out of energy running away with stim boost on hoping to get enough to root someone and get around the corner. I am not saying I cannot kill people, I can, if they are not expecting me.... However, the group fights (which most of this game is) I am just a sitting duck doing nothing more then wasting my healers time healing me because I am out of energy auto shotting, not killing anyone. I get white crit by a marauder ravage white damage 4.5k We are completely useless now, there is no reason to even have us around. Put a marauder in our place, or even a rage jugg! Here is a video of me playing pre 1.2 against the best tank assassin pvp on our server 1v1 for a 1v1 tournament championship, so you do not have to question my skill. I know what I am talking about. http://www.twitch.tv/trusoljuh/b/311309853 Does anyone else have any input for me, maybe something that will calm my nerves and make me feel better, a tissue perhaps.

Idk, i think it is fun to watch other people play sometimes, it's nice to see different play styles and sometimes you may even learn something

http://www.justin.tv/trusoljuh If anyone is interested in watching me pvp. I am new to this whole deal, so I am just havin fun doing what I do.. I have a tank and rage spec on my juggernaut, and I am concealment on my operative. Tryin to get people interested in the PVP SCENE AGAIN!

Hey guys, I am live streaming on my Battlemaster Operative if you are interested in watching me. I will be doing WZ's all day today and night. I also have a Juggernaut I will be pvping on as well. twitch.tv/trusoljuh Head there if you are interested, I am a pretty solid player... testing out a few stats for the most viable after the surge nerfs. Also I am new to streaming, started last week so be gentle... If you are a competitive operative check it out, lets debate some stuff!