I have provided anecdotal evidence that the build is not as bad as you seem to think. I also posted a link to a 30+ page thread discussing the build in pvp. Most of my points seem to be completely ignored by people who would rather focus on how bad shield chance is in pvp without giving the spec a second thought. You, Rogmar, have also attacked me personally in each of your responses. I have no idea who you are or how experienced you are as a vanguard in pvp, but I do know that I am not "sub par" by any means. You are welcome to roll a toon on Ajunta Pall and see for yourself. I stand by my original statement that the Yojack build is strong enough in pvp to deserve recognition on a comprehensive list of vanguard pvp specs. In his own words the build is "an absolute beast in 1 vs 1 and team pvp". Regardless of what you think of me, Yojack is undoubtedly an experienced pvper. Anyone who disagrees with me is welcome to their opinion, but please keep the insults to yourself. Edit: Out of respect for Taugrim, I will not post anymore in his thread on this matter.

When guarding a door/node or carrying the ball, you will get focused. In theory you may be right, but in practice I find you will be able to force people to focus you in objective based pvp. Also, if you are using as much ammo as possible, energy blast will make a difference in your overall long term dps. If you never die during a WZ (common for me with this spec) then you will constantly be attacking. With energy blast and my 2 ammo CDs I rarely have to use Hammer Shot because I always have ammo for better abilities. I've also been called unkillable by many Imp and Rep players alike. p.s. Calling me "not very bright" does not add any credibility to your opinion, Rogmar. Edit: I'm not trying to argue that the build is better than any other build for for pvp; I just think the Yojak build is strong enough in pvp to deserve credit as a viable pvp build.

I respect your opinion, but I disagree that any spec with 31 in shield tree should automatically be labeled a PVE spec.

Taugrim, I know you don't like the thought of putting 31 talents in shield spec, but the 31/8/2 Yojack build definitively has merit. Especially for someone who wants 1 build for both pvp and pve. You may want to consider adding it to your list. Build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801GoGrdoroTzZMsbZb.1 Yojack's thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=2770 See you around AP! ~Jalad

Stopped reading there.

This happens to me a lot. I notice it happens most often after I have been using one of my thumb mouse buttons to strafe.

If you are having trouble winning in warzones I have 2 recommendations. First is to get to level 50 if you are not already. Level 50s are at a huge advantage in terms of talents/gear/utility. The second is to find a guild with a vent/teamspeak/mumble server that has people who pvp in it. I've done enough warzones for two bags tonight without losing a single one. Level 50 vanguard on Junta Pall with commando, sage, and scoundrel buddies from guild with me on vent. Those Imps never stood a chance. You can't clear pve content without a few friends. Pvp is no different. Edit: I would also like to note that we do not have our toons geared for 50 pvp yet. This really doesn't matter though because of our excellent communication. Teamwork > Skill > Gear

Scoundrels can also remain stealthed in the opponents end zone until their ball carrier is ready to pass the pall up to them from the low pit. Most opponents will stay away from the ledge if they do not see anyone there so that they cant get charged.