Its people like u that let them launch with these problems without people like u they would adress these issues before launch and if any started happening after launch they would be dealt with faster.

but the thing is its the people expecting issues at launch that let the compainies have soo many issue's and not have to worry to much about them untill a thew months after launch.

But u have got to admit tho xmas rush as in kids asking mommy daddy can i have that game for xmas? u not see that happening and them making more money from the game quicker?

disagree to some agree with some yes this has been a better launch than wow but remember technology only gets better and wow launched 7 years ago in this day and age SWTOR should have had this game polished and it is not even close. And in my opinion and same for alot more people the game was not ready for launch they should have gave it another maybe 6 months but nope they wanted the xmas money num num num

HAHA AGREE maybe have no ability delay either

another fanboy ^^^^^^ reality is People like u give the companies and developers easy money for unfinished games simple. And TBH i want my money back i didnt pay £50 to play BETA

Another proving my point if everyone was wanting atleast close to bug free then the developers and companies would have to open their eyes and make it happen. Yes i admit it cant be totaly bug free but does it have to have soo many bugs? and still have the ones people reported in BETA ? no they are just being lazy BECAUSE AGAIN people like you will let them away with it simple as

I know what u mean me and my wife or soon to be wife even(3 weeks to go lol) are going to play wow in us servers. But i did not expect SWTOR to be bugg free, I did BETA and reported numerous buggs and am a bit disheartened that when i play BETA report a bug i would think these should be taken care of before launch. And then launch comes along and every single bugg i reported are all still in the game, What i ask is what is the point in BETA if i what i am there for (reporting buggs ect...) if these issues are not getting care of before launch. And Does that mean i wasted my time reporting these bugs? maybe i should have been like some others that just wanted on BETA to play the game, and had no intentions of reporting bugs exc... And it is a real problem that beta testers are reporting bugs and not seing results at launch. And for launch to basicaly be like another BETA for 6 months is not acceptible and these people saying ''all mmo's are the same at launch'' gives the development teams and the companies excuses. SWTOR wanted to be different? then why not start out different and not have the same problems other MMO'S had? just because other MMO'S had problems does not make this ok last on this note ''not fixing bugs reported by the beta testers before launch is a sin'' end of story

Well first of all i reported 1: Ability delay 2: unload for BH keeps animating even when running away 3:Force lightning keeps animating even when running away 4: Speeders not activating when bast bar is done and unmounting if moveing These are the bugs i reported and alll still in the game. How can people say its OK for all these bugs at launch. people say give 6 months...... People saying give 6 months are just being unrealistic really, soo 6 months is a good amount of time ? well maybe they should have held off the release for 6 moths Problem solved But holding off the release 6 months would have. 1: Missed the xmas money making. 2: Made the fans unhappy. 3: Probably not made a difference they would have just slowed everything down more and not sorted any of the bugs anyway. But not releasing before xmas wouldnt have made them as much money, soo do wee then blame BW and EA for releasing a game early too make more money ?

Like look here everyone made my point ''its a new game'' every single time, it is people like you that make the companies think it is ok to launch in these states. And without people like you they would take notice and actually get the game to the gameplay (6 months after launch ususally bring) at launch.

The basic thing is yes it can not be bug free but then why get people doing BETA for soo long if........... the bugs that were reported do not get fixed before launch ? Because quite simply they are thinking about money before anything else.

Well what i keep reading in these threads is mostly people making excuses for MMO's at launch, In my understanding MMO means Massivly Multiplayer Online. Soo why do people make excuses for MMO's at launch? When we buy an MMO game, we do not buy it for constant bugs and things not working as they should. People make too many excuses for these companies and developers of these games. Does not matter what excuses are going to be said in this thread. I bought this game for fun and it should not matter if i buy this game at launch, or 6 months after launch i should get the same experiance there is no excuse for that. What is the point of BETA for soo long if launch is not going to be perfect (or atleast close) People giving theses companies the excuse of ''ALL MMO'S ARE THE SAME AT LAUNCH'' is not the answer. Giving them this excuse lets them bring out MMO's before they are actually ready giving profit from a game that is still in BETA stages. SWTOR BETA TESTING I have read muliple threads about BW not fixing bugs that were reported in BETA and the bugs are still in game, I blame mostly the '' ALL MMO'S ARE THE SAME AT LAUNCH EXCUSES'' without these the companies and developers would work harder to get the MMO up to scratch before launch. Ok soo i know i am going to get people hating my opinions and soo on but who agrees with me and why ???????? Thanks for your time and patiance this was bigger than i thought i would have been may the force be with u all

lets thing for a second how can an all 50 premade going against level 10s and 33s pugg be right how does that give the pugg any chance atol ?

disagree ^^^^ grammar is not needed in forums go **** urself maybe:)

but what im saying right now is why would they (think) its ok to launch a game when alll the bugs that were reported never got fixed before release, or would it not have been better to fix the bigger bugs and leave the smaller ones ? if they were going to leave any i would rather the smaller than bigger but would prefer all the beta reported bugs to be gone before launch personaly.......