the point is, NOTHING you can do in a game makes you hard core. nothing. there is no real danger. Becoming a navy seal or army spec forces is hard core. completing a Triathalon in the top 5 makes you hard core. I find it funny that game geeks feel having a game waste your time makes you a tough guy. Yes, a game needs death, including some negative penalty. SWTOR isnt really bad that way. But dont act like playing it a certain way makes you tougher. If you end up in prison, tell them you played EVE, see if that helps. City of heroes gives you a short period of xp debt, but also gives you inspirations to rez on the spot. You can easily combat rez. Hardcore there is based on how many enemies at + levels to you can be defeated at the same time. Different standards for different games.