I killed Republic at their steps for about 30 mins yesterday. I made 1K valor a minute (at least) left because I won't support a broken system where one side has a major valor/gear advantage in a PvP based game. Not that I can blame anyone for staying and taking advantage of Bioware's awful open world PvP system...blame Bioware. I unsubbed before 1.1 anyway, I knew faction imbalance would cause this. I won't EVER resub because Bioware has stated that all Empire who "camped" you Republic players yesterday were "exploiting"... Killing players in a PvP zone, while Bioware released a broken patch has turned all Empire players who were on IIlum yesterday into exploiters. FYI: We just wanted to see the same new content as everyone else. Most people AREN'T going to check the forums and it is the DEVELOPERS job to ensure content works, not the players.

Same PvP lead designer in both games. GG Bioware.

It takes about a month to grind BM than you have to you know, get the gear. It could be longer than a month. Bioware needed to yank the servers down all day yesterday instead they let people gain insane valor by "exploiting"!! GG Bioware! What a joke.

Sorry people got insane amounts of valor yesterday. You aren't being trolled. It happened. Mostly was Empire farming Republic but I heard (few) stories of it happening the other way. Personally, I was getting 1K valor a minute (at least) and was at the steps no more than 15-30 mins... just do the math. I unsubbed before 1.1 anyway and just went out their yesterday just check out the madness when the servers came up. It was actually kind of fun till everyone on the Empire side showed up. No troll, just the truth, take it how you want to though.

Yes there was. Empire was gaining an amazing amount of valor yesterday by farming Repuplic at their base on their steps. Bioware has stated this was an "exploit" after it happening for about 5 hours, did nothing but disable taxi service and kept the servers up. I fail to see how killing players in a broken PvP zone is exploiting more like testing a broken patch but thanks for labeling all Empire players "exploiters". So yea, it happened. No it isn't a troll and I unsubbed long before 1.1 anyway. I play Empire btw and won't support a broken system where our side gets a crazy valor/gear advantage.

You and I feel differently than. Being a game tester, this should have been delayed till the could max tester 200 vs 100 or similar numbers on the PTR but we the players who WANTED to (myself and "exploiting" guildes included) couldn't copy our 50's our roll 50 toons with Champion/BM gear to test this crap. I doubt Bioware has the number internally to pull that off anyway so this patch could very well have been theorycrafted in. I don't take broken content that people will be PAYING for soon lightly and have voted with my wallet. I certainly don't condone calling any Empire players today exploiters and can't wait to see where this game goes...good or bad.

Nope I worked as a game tester before. I went to the zone saw how broke it was and left. Being a game tester for three years I can see broken content, not that it takes being a game tester to see how bad today was going to be. That still doesn't make the fact my guild members didn't any better. It certainly doesn't make calling them exploiters for being in a PvP zone and killing members of the other faction a smart move by Bioware either.

Bioware made all Empire players look like exploiters. I've been called one all night. I was playing the games broken content. A company that brands me an exploiter...or anyone else who were killing people in a PvP zone over and over on a system they knew would be broken because of faction imbalance won't get my money. From my guild numbers I'm sure a lot of serious PvP'rs feel the same. I play Empire by the way.

I agree. Worst part of this it is Bioware make us Empire players look like a bunch of evil exploiters when we were just exploring broken PvP content. People traded points before 1.1 and nobody got banned for NOT fighting in a PvP zone. Yet you want to ban me and others for testing Biowares content and getting "free loot". I'm sorry about today...but banning me and players like me for testing content is irrational at best.

Dave: This won't happen. It was never stated. If you don't like that I'm sorry and agree it sucks. Never been a rollback in beta, and the people who were banned for credit duping (not as many as actually pulled it off trust me) got a 7 day "warning" and to keep the credits. If the won't punish "fair exploiting" from players on both sides...They won't punish us Empire players because we already outnumber you so bad anyway. PS:We also weren't exploiting. I know we are bad guys in game but not IRL. We were testing broken Bioware content. Most players didn't check the forums who played Empire and general chat isn't a way to inform players of a broken system....server messages are.

As someone who plays Empire and personally watched as the screen filled up with valor amounts similar to this poster I must be dumb enough to believe the truth.

I'm really tired. IRL and of this patch/game. You can read my thoughts throughout the forum and mostly this thread. I'll just say that my guild that has 20+ people on at all times was at 2-5 pretty much all day... Most of those are 50 and we actually play Empire and didn't even want to farm Republic. We rolled on a PvP server, not an RP one. PS: Empire players are just as mad about you Republic players getting farmed. At least the decent PvP'rs that want a balanced game and not one side having a huge valor/gear advantage are. Huttball is fun, but not anywhere close to THAT fun.

Guess what. Hate the game, don't hate the players. I've been here on this thread all day too man. I haven't logged into the game in days when I saw this trainwreck coming and posted in THESE forums about how 1.1 would break IIum if it wasn't instanced. So yeah, you could say I've been here.

You have this Battlemaster thing wrong. I'm sure Imp's aren't that upset or at least shouldn't be... I'm sure these people are Republic mad that they will be facing a lot of people with access to gear they can't get yet. These people should be upset.

I play Empire. You are flat lying about this issue being on the PTR period. You can't even copy a 50 to the server or /level to 50. You are trying to blame players for beta testing a companies broken patch. You do realize how this makes you look?

How did this player exploit? Bioware never posted this was an exploit for HOURS and even afterward, do you expect players getting insane valor to leave a zone, or logout to check the forums for the status?

These players weren't aware they were exploiting. Can you explain why the turrets are OUTSIDE the kill zone? Go ahead though ban all those Imps, that'll show em for beta testing a broken patch...!

Bioware responding to a thread about how they broke their game? Do you think they are Riot or something? This company doesn't talk to the players or ask for advice, let alone post in constructive criticism threads.

No you'd blame the house for running a rigged game for hours... Oh wait, Bioware did. And all this "hardcores will stay" was said about Warhammer, AoC, Aion etc. etc...

All you people calling for a rollback just stop and unsub. It won't happen. Hasn't happened in Beta (don't know why it would ever need to though) so I don't see it happening now. People who glitched credits either: A) Didn't get banned B) Were banned seven days and allowed to keep all credits. So even if these players who "exploited" (what a joke Bioware do you think 99% of Imps on a server testing your broken open world PvP are "exploiting") and they ban all these Imps. A) Republic will finally get to play Huttball a majority of the time. B) After seven days all these people (if they come back) still have the valor needed to open Battlemaster bags. Remember which side has more players and you'll see a rollback won't happen. Oh and I unsubbed when I saw 1.1 notes, couldn't copy a 50 to test changes and knew this would most likely happen. Bioware threw a match on the smoldering fire that was server imbalance. I play Empire by the way :-)...

They said the same thing about AoC, Aion, Warhmamer etc etc..

1.They were. 2. Yes, this was and is known by Bioware. 3.Yes, pretty much. 4. 100%. 5. At least for a while. 6. I've never heard of a rollback happening, even when asking beta players. So yes, pretty nice summary and yes I am annoyed...

Or a community wondering where the company was while people were hitting Battlemaster in a matter of hours. This wasn't even an issue just a potential one for a while, pretty arrogant if you ask me, but this community is the cesspool of venomous people with nothing to spew. I could almost say the exact same thing about this cocky attitude Bioware took and has taken to this problem.

Bit buggy? Or broke the valor system? Lets be real here.

Gabe Amatangelo Principal Lead PvP, Flashpoints and Operations Designer This man ruined one MMO's PvP and arguably the game. I don't think I'll be giving a company money who employs this guy and his design decisions. I was willing to actually until 1.1 and the notes came out. Now when my guild has TWO people logged on and we are a PvP guild after a major content patch... I think I'll vote with my wallet thanks!