Hi anyone that's interested, I played for about a year and a half, but finally gave in to boredom about half-way through my second character, the BH. I'm now looking to return and make the most of the 12x XP to finally finish up the class stories, but I'm looking for a guild to help me get through the Heroics and such so I can have some decent gear throughout. I'd also like to do some RPing with my main JK, and finally tackle some of the Operations and HM Flashpoints in Endgame, which something I never really got to do in my original run due to spending most of my time RPing. Hopefully someone takes note of this. If you do, and think I'd be an interesting guy to have in a guild send me a PM in-game to Dãnte, or you can contact me over at swtor-rp.com at JBFett. Thx in advance!

Thank you for both the translation, and the cleaning up. Like I said I wrote this a while back, and if it isn't evidenced that I can't even remember most of what it means, I didn't spend a lot of time studying it in depth. Thanks again for the help though, and maybe next time I'm delving into Mando'a I'll come to you to make sure I don't look like an idiot It was actually being used for one of my own that I'm currently rewriting, and revising, but seeing as how it'll probably be a while before it ever gets posted, I suppose there's no harm.

So I wrote this years ago, back when I was picking up Mando'a, and I recently found it again in one of my computer folders, and realized that I'm unable to read it Yeah I know it sounds really dumb that I wrote something that I can no longer read, but this was seriously years ago. So if anyone with active knowledge of Mando'a would be willing to translate this back to English I'd be very appreciative. Mhi haar marev be Manda'lor Akaanir darasuum Manda'lor Akay cuun kyr'am Akay werde olaror Kyr'amur aru'ese Manda'lor Mhi dinuir tal par Manda'lor

Remember the first one they did with the Sarlacc Pit as a playable class? or the one with the Wookiee Fur UI option?

Man... the luck of stumbling upon this thing after a year... wow. So... I'm gunna bump this since I found it and it is joyous news to me.

No they do have an obligation to it because Fillion has said that he 'cares and has a lot of knowledge about the EU". That along with the promise that multiple representatives of the EU have said they try to "create a consistent, and non contradictory timeline". That right there is them giving themselves an obligation to the Star Wars Galaxy, and to me, as a fan, to pull as few retcons as possible.

I consider it a conundrum, cause I don't see how anyone who calls themselves a star Wars fan can sit there and be alright with the Clone Wars erasing superior material, simply for the sake of making money off a children's TV-Show.

But wasn't the one against Kenobi an illusion, and the one against Vader a doppelganger?

Agree with Trix. The first Force Unleashed was a good game, but Star Killer is sorta a dumb character. That, and FU2 sucked.

lol you obviously don't know anything about Dark Horse comics. *face palm* They've brought back Darth Maul ONCE, it was in Infinity Tales, which was non-canon. The Clone Wars was then like "Hey that sounds like a cool idea! Lets do it! Derp!", and thus made it canon.

See I'd consider that bad writing. How does she remember she's a Nightsister? She was still an infant when they took her. Why do the Nightsister's suddenly have to bargain with slaver's by giving up one of their own? Why don't they just kill or enslave the slavers? They ride Rancor's and have the Darkside for god's sake. Why do the Nightsister's even allow MALES to walk on their planet without immediately enslaving them? That goes against every portrayal of the Nightsister's formerly shown. Like I said, it just seems like it was a way to shoe-horn the Nightsister's in, and then base the rest of their series main plot line on this shoe-horn. There were better ways to incorporate the Nightsister than changing Ventriss' backstory. Their were better ways to introduce Savage than changing Ventriss' backstory. Also, no she doesn't have Nightsister written all over her, she has Rattataki written all over her. You know, the race that is in THIS game, and now suddenly doesn't exist in any other Canon source.

Yea Tales of the Jedi is also pretty essential. While I loved Knights of the Old Republic, it just doesn't reach the same amount of epicness as the rest. *shrug* Dark Empire was the one with Clone Palpatine, and Luke going to the Dark Side. Dark Empire wasn't all bad, but II and III were terrible because they basically recycled the plot of the first one, TWICE.

I disagree, if anything almost all of Dark Horse's Star Wars lines over the past 20 years have been moderate-good, I suggest you pick up Legacy, Dark Times, and Republic just to name a few stand outs. The only notably bad one they've done was Dark Empire from when they first obtained the license.

What? You must be trolling, or have no idea what your talking about. You say 'were', it can't be 'were' if they still are publishing Star Wars material. Also the only other comics you have to compare Dark Horse's work to are the terribad Marvel ones, so you can't tell me they're "some of the worst comics in SW" unless you find that mid-80s crap good.

Okay. You make some good points. What they have done to the Mandalorians I can agree with, as long as the Death Watch wins in season 5. I suppose your also right about Ventress, though I wish they would have given a better introduction to the Dathomir story than just "Yea, Assajj is actually one of them. Oh, and Maul and Oppress are actually their slaves." Just seems like a cheap shoe-horn to me. *shrug* Why are all the Nightbrother's Zabrak? Also, they need to leave Aurra Sing alone, but at the same time I want to see a mention of A'Sharad Hett thrown in there, just for the Legacy fanboys

I'll have to argue with you on Star Wars being about Good Triumping evil. While the Original Trilogy is about Good vs Evil, I don't think the EU should be bogged down by this idea. It's a big universe, many things can happen, and keeping everything in black and white causes most things to be boring. Also I'd like to point out that the prequel trilogy is anything but good vs Evil when you take a closer look at it beyond Jedi vs Sith. If anything the Clone Wars is Evil vs Evil. The Republic is lead by Sidious, the CIS is lead by Sidious. Also I'll have to argue that I don't think George Lucas has the best understanding of what Star Wars is, not anymore. While he did lay the foundations of the Universe, much better minds have seen to it in the intervening years. Infact, I believe at one point George admitted that he has no idea what happens in the universe outside his movies, and that he has never read any EU material. Also I know that Fillion says that he has a deep understanding of the EU, but if he does he pays no mind to it. As pointed out earlier, he has directly contradicted the EU multiple times. Maybe I'm just trying to say that for a long time everyone associated with Star Wars has stressed that they try to create a continuous canon, free of contradiction, however since the Clone Wars was released numerous violations of this promise have happened. The most plausible people to blame for this are both Fillion and Lucas, as they are the heads of The Clone Wars project. I just think they should practice what they preach, if they care about the EU at all.

Um... why is this even a question? The Republic, they have both Thrawn, and the Jedi. Edit: Also Thrawn is not the end all be all super weapon of war that people make him out to be. He was defeated after all.

Okay. I will admit, I am not an avid watcher of the series, because every time I try to get into it I find myself disappointed by how bad it is. I didn't claim to be one either. I lost interest in the show rather quickly once they started spiting out canon contradictions left and right. I have seen the trailers for Season 5, and I hope they actually let the "bad guys" win, but lets be honest, in a kids show the bad guys never win. They haven't won a single time in the episodes I've watched of the series. Finally, I don't think you have read the comic series put out by Dark Horse about the Clone Wars if you say that the writing on The Clone Wars is better than the writing of those comics. I urge you to either pick up the TPBs, or download, the issues of Star Wars: Republic, Star Wars: Dark Times, and Star Wars: Obsession. After reading those, you can not tell me that the staff at The Clone Wars has a better understanding of what Star Wars truly is than the wonderful artist at Dark Horse.

Yes. It is my opinion, but I can't be the only one who has it. I will openly admit, I consider nothing published within the last four years under "The Clone Wars" market brand to be in my version of Star Wars, simply because it does not live up to the expectations of what I perceive as "Star Wars". I feel like Anakin should have never had an apprentice, and I feel like Grevious should have remained a pretty bad *** guy. Again, I feel like the creative (arguably better) works of former writers, and artist is being erased, in favor of making money off of a tv show written to appeal to children. I simply wish to see if I am the only one of this opinion. Well... Ventress' story wasn't so much 'changed' as it was "unnecessarily added to". Originally she was solely Rattatak, however The Clone Wars changed it to shoe-horn the Dathomir Witches in, therefore effectively obliterating the Rattataki species from Star Wars Cannon. See how that causes a problem considering Rattataki are in this game? And while I can somewhat agree with the Mandalorians, I hate how the traditional Mando's are portrayed as solely evil. Which leads to another problem the show raises, everything presented in it is black and white. There are no 'good' guys on the Sepretist side, and everything formerly established that could allow someone to sympathize with the CIS has been completely destroyed, or obscured.

As a writer, I enjoy her works. As a person? I think she's a *********** *****.

Who really were "The Bad Guys" in the Clone Wars? I raise this question simply to spark hypothetical political, and philosophical discussion. I'll start, with a brief history on the Cofederacy of Independent Systems (CIS). From Wookieepedia: "In the decades prior to the Clone Wars, the Republic was seen by many as a failing government, plagued by corruption and mindless bureaucracy that stifled the voices of many constituents represented in the Galactic Senate. Secession grew during the period following the Invasion of Naboo, and the commerce guilds and trading corporations became disillusioned with the Republic after the law was passed to place taxation on all trade routes to outlying star systems. Into this critical situation stepped Count Dooku, a former Jedi Master who had become disillusioned with the Republic and the Jedi Order that served it. This charismatic figure stirred up anti-Republic sentiments on many worlds, paving the way for a rebellion against the government. A loose affiliation of separatists was formed, with Dooku at their head, pushing for a new government to take the place of the stagnant Republic. Eventually, this Separatist movement established itself as the Confederacy of Independent Systems, a body formally opposed to the Galactic Republic. The members of the CIS included the Corporate Alliance, Trade Federation, Commerce Guild, InterGalactic Banking Clan and the Techno Union. Although the Republic recognized that many of its member worlds were in rebellion, it refused to formally acknowledge the existence of the CIS as their common government, deeming that doing so would legitimize it." This secessionist movement draws many parallels to what was happening in real world America during the mid-late 1700's. The CIS, similar to America, felt oppressed by the Republic's (Britain) excessive taxation, and as the famous rallying cry goes, "No Taxation, without Representation." Was George Lucas really trying to mask anti-American sentiments in his movies? To draw further parallels I will relate Star Wars Character's to real historical persons. Count Dooku: Thomas Jefferson; General Grievous: George Washington; Nute Gunray: John Adams. I will now leave the topic open to discussion.

Thank you. Now that I have at least one supporter, I must ask: Does anyone else wish Mr. Chee would get over his obsession with keeping Star Wars as one timeline, and simply make it another? I feel like he's only doing this to satisfy the pockets of his higher ups, and maybe himself. He's compromising the history of stars wars, by overriding what I perceive as better material, with material that I perceive as worst. That, as a fan, makes me highly upset, and I feel like I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Does anyone else feel like The Clone Wars is pretty much taking a **** on all previously establish canon? Examples: Mandalorians during the Clone Wars, Adi Gallia's Death, Asajj Ventress' backstory, Grevious' backstory, Dooku's backstory, the Entire CIS' backstory, Maul being revived, Asoka Tano, The Battle of Kamino, and Even Piell's death. I'm sure there's more but those are the one's I could think of off the top of my head. Examples of Sources which have been changed: Dark Horse Comics set during the Clone Wars (Republic, Oppression, ect.), the Republic Commando books, the entire original timeline for the Clone Wars; again these are just the things I could think of off the top of my head.

Genetically Engineered Clones = Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Boss = Leo Sev = Raph Scorch = Mickey Fixer = Don I feel like nothing else needs to be said to prove my point.

MOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!! I DEMAND MOOOOOOOORE! Also I didn't even know this existed again until like... 30 mins ago. I need to get on these old forums more.