The "grind" is still there you have to get BM gear that's a grind. True WH is not must have but its better then BM gear hands down. The PVE part was to show that there is a diff in the PVE/PVP. So the PVP is not there if you have not grind all the BM gear. As i am sure not everyone has Bm gear on his or her alts and we play more then 1 toon. or most people do heal/dps/tank so on. You can only think of the way you play. Most of us would like to PVP with out a Hugh grind to what was valor 60. Now is a Ludicrous amount of games to get tokens to buy BM gear .Some where in the range of 800+ games . again we get gear to pvp not pvp to get gear that is the point and not off topic What about people that buy the game today they have a grind that would be 20 games a day everyday for 2 months AFTER they hit 50 its just crazy ps. still have huge icons over your head? wessik still need your crutch?

This from someone that lives in a MMo's. Just a FYI i PVE to get gear. Like in all MMO's BUT you get PVP gear to PVP the real PVP starts after you get the gear not before. BW grind for PVP gear is just Ludicrous. real PVP is only happions when its = gear not before

You have to be kidding. Just jump up reroll, grind all new gear, lave the premade guild that you was put in with all your RL friends just to pvp in a 8v8 with new people you don't know. I would say more about IQ points on this post but i would just get into more trouble, I meen for real you said this ?

Its been said what you just said 50 time's. IT not the point that OP should be in a premade./vent/comp OP did not ask for tips on how to be in a premade

The good even say, they don't need it. Its just the bad dps in fear and rage that hate there own healer.

However, your perspective assumes team cohesion on at least one side. That the OP was in a comp/vent.premade and with player's Capable of Guard and to assist the OP ( the peeps that need a mark CAN NOT be Capable of helping said heal. If mark alone can Negate premades/vent/comp then it way to powerful and needs to go.

What you are saying is they need a GPS system on the heals at all time for there Crutch. Next in RL they will have a good hunter go out and put a GPS on the deer so they can find them as well ( I there it is in the headlight's)

if it the same then Why not take it out. ITS not the same you have to find them after the Call out. don't see the OP say it was in a vent/comp/premade if a vent/comp/premade need a mark i say find new peeps to Q with

I will have someone pull you away from the tank or knock you away from the tank 15m GUARD drops you die. All so most of you say have you team help protect you. The same team that can not kill a heal with out a mark is now going to be so good that then can guard there healer I just got to LOL at the idea that they can do one( guard protect ) and cant see the green heals rofl

I can play heals or smite in my on my Monk in Obsidian Armor on.I can all so put heal skills on my Elementalist so you can not know if someone is healer in GW until they cast! You can not mark them in GW . Woot /Emote rank 9 bunny/tiger AND in GW the top end PVP is 100% comp. Fight for Favor we have favor

In the time you are calling out the names and looking for the heal in the crowd to get focused they may heal 3 or more in that time and they may kill you and you have to spend time looking for the healer on the next spawn NOT just i see you forever No immunity it just give the healer a chance to get them off them los you and not have the WHOLE TEAM see them come out of the gate again 300m away

That"s not what she said ( put words in her mouth) this is the post Marking healers with raid icons just ends any fun trying to play heal's unless you have a extreme amount of pvp gear. There is no L2play when you have 6 ranged stuns when you spawn and jump out of the walls, etc. etc etc. If you don't have a pre-made group to use cool down to protect heal you die as soon as they see the mark. In any other mmo with 1/2 way good pvp does not allow enemy marks. In fact, in one or more mmo's they will ban you if you use third party add on's to mark healers. The L2play should not be mark the healer it should be recognize the healer for ones self and then kill him. BW says they care about PVPbut they let something like this slip through. This sould be fixed, Hell PVP need a big work over and everyone knows it. I dont see her say one word ABOUT being focused or about norm heal argo. but i have read 100s of POST telling her the same thing i told you Q with a group and other blah blah blah

Then do like others and (probably you did) told the OP to do PLAY with others that can help you and that are good's not bad's its go's both ways night

The problem is most don't READ the OP the see what they fear and rage or don't get what she was saying. her point was it ends the fun and with this ill say good night have fun with all the post and rage and the like BW for sure will have to look hard and long as they go into rated warfronts have a good night live well ( work calls ) early

investigating the situation is for bug's and there like, game changes they say goto furums

Go play one L2p ReROLL are all just to be a smart you know what! Whatever if you was not trying to be rude. Then OK...............

getting people to look at your point and asking for it to stop and be fix'd is TRYING to fix the game. YOUr post was just to be rude. when you make a ticket they say post on forum FYI

IF it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference then why do you care. If it gives a pug a chance VS vent/premade/comp then it damn sure does make a difference. your point is vold focused yes dha but its more then a focus THAT"s its make it where you can NOT not be seen. ITS makes it instead of 3 or 4 good that know you but all 8 can see you LOS/ spawning and runing back before they sould

what we are talking about is the amount of time it takes for a unmarked heals VS a marked heals the time you take trying to find a heal. is 6 to 10s for good's and the bad well they need to L2P not L2kill mark in that 6 to 10s the heals and GET a GUARD . (its NOT hard to get guard off them) OR maybe make a inpact on the game By Healing said tank( if there is one) maybe saving a team mate FTW with the mark thats all gone they see you from 300m away behind walls and in the spawn room. HOW can you not see a problem with a 15 min mark/debuff. its just sad that it end's the fun for the 90% none super geard/comp/vent/premaed players

NO 1 can stand up to 4,5 and 6 peeps on you with ranged stuns you can say you can but we know its BS for you to do it solo. OP says there is no time when you Spawn its i see you bang they blow you up before you can get out the doors. All warfronts are not HB IT makes People that should L2P on there own in gods with no work NO skill

I am off topic here BUT a thread Should be made to fix how gear looks the same this alone with the mark ASAP

That is the point with a mark on you its makes it 8v1 YOU got it I pug a lot A LOT and i seen tanks and i seen no tanks but here the is deal after you die the mark keeps you from ever getting BACK to a tank to get a guard I hope and that is What the OP has talked about in later post! Guard is not a fix all With a OPS mark you MIz well let poeple Q in a OPS

GO read up on there plan's for the LONG term PVP they said they would like to get into E-sports They talkd about it way back in BETA.

off topic Its to Q for warfront with a set of composition of players

AGAIN who said there is a tank in this WARFRONT not the OP and a 1/2 way good player will get the healer more then 15M away and then guard DROPS. you should know this if you do any real pvp in swtor