It's just a simple usability issue. Just because it was clear to one player does not mean it was clear to another. I know I'm not alone in misinterpreting it, so I have no problem bringing up this suggestion. I'm out my freebie 60 and the time I put into the character. THANK GOD I didn't do this on a character I leveled from 1-60 and became attached to. I feel really bad for the players who did that and ran into the same problem. The game designers have to make several concepts clear to new players all at once: a) There's a point at which a romance is "locked in". b) You can only choose one of the three to "lock in". c) You have to make the choice right now. d) You cannot go back and change this decision. Replaying chapters will not alter previous decisions. This could be fixed by a pop-up box confirming your choice. They do confirmation boxes for other things in the game. Important story-based choices should also get warning confirmation boxes. Or give players the chance to really redo chapters and change their choices. That would be nice.

Saw that suggestion too. Others have said that save state only exists for the chapter itself, and once you're done it doesn't stick. These issues with basic mechanics and user friendliness are making me question why I came back. That, and the fact that it's pretty much single player now.

So apparently the romance for a character in KOTFE gets locked in in the cantina scene, however the dialogue option makes it seem like you're only talking to Theron. Doing a search indicates that several people have pointed this out already. The [Flirt] indicator in this scene really needs to be clarified, because now my character is locked out of any romance. I shouldn't have to look up spoilers and work around tips just to be able to play the game. This is extremely frustrating. Of course, making chapters truly replayable would fix this. For other Bioware games, people have save files. You can go back and fix things if you made a mistake, without having to completely redo hours of gameplay. In SWTOR, that's our only option.

Aw, man. Seriously? What does he say?

Both factions only got a final conversation with their respective counterpart (Imp/Lana, Rep/Theron). But yours is a good question. The best possible outcome for the expansion is that, going forward, only actions will determine whether or not you can romance a character, not your original faction affiliation. If Theron is in the expansion in a big way, then the expansion is good news. I hope Bioware is considering fans in all this and not just writing whatever seems most dramatic.

Just putting this here in case some of you didn't see it. Hahaha http://ellustration.tumblr.com/post/125479740132/even-if-he-meant-it-sarcastically-all-i-can-do-is

My Jedi but my light side Agent

I just realized something somewhat ironic or appropriate or however you want to interpret it: The only course of action that would have mitigated the damage on Ziost would have included Theron communicating with both of his parents, possibly at the same time. First, tell Satele, "Hey, I think Vitiate is on Ziost. As the most powerful / highest ranking Jedi, what do you recommend?" It's possible she would have come up with a similar plan. More than likely she would have gone in on her own, or contacted the PC. Second, warn Jace Malcom, Supreme Commander that, "Hey, remember how our enemy gets stronger every time people die around him? It's going to be really tempting to invade Ziost, but do you think you could keep troops away from there for now?"

Perfect. That's a really pretty customization too. This reminds me - I really need fraps!

Yup. Again with his One Man Team philosophy. No?

I think it's more that he's indirectly responsible. If you're in a car and something external happens to make you lose control of the vehicle (ice, something in the road, deer) and people in another car are killed because your car swerved into them, then you are arguably at fault, but not because of any decisions you made. The only decision you made was to be on that road. It's the same for Theron. He had no way of knowing the road he was on would lead to total destruction.

I'm not sure this really answers the big questions people have. It's a bit vague.

My defense of Theron, by the way, has nothing to do with realizing how much he blames himself. Sometimes things go wrong and, even if it's not really your fault, you feel guilty anyway.

I honestly don't think Theron was to blame for the mess on Ziost. He acted on the information he had available. He suspected Vitiate was on Ziost and making trouble there, which was correct. Ordinary people could only do so much against Vitiate without access to the Force. So he went to a group of Jedi headed by Master Surro and asked them to be a strike team. The plan was to infiltrate, learn what they could, and if given the opportunity, stop Vitiate. Jedi had to be the ones to go in. His plan had two faults, but neither of them were on Theron. One, he chose the wrong Jedi. The Sixth Line were practically Dark Side Jedi, or at least not out of touch with that side of themselves. Vitiate could have taken control of anyone, including Sith already on the planet, but chose these Jedi because 1) they were easy to manipulate and 2) it was probably amusing / ironic. The second fault with the plan was in not having all the intel on Vitiate. Until this point, we had never seen mass mind control, not from Vitiate, not from anyone. No one knew this was possible. We had seen single individuals possessed or used or turned, but not mind control of everyone on a planet. And no one knew it was possible for Vitiate to consume an entire planet. Remember that Surro and the other members of the Sixth Line were all full Jedi Masters. They were adults responsible for their own choices. They chose to go to Ziost. It's not like Theron could have ordered them to go. He asked, they acted. Which, by the way, do you really think Theron was acting in a vacuum? He at least had the okay for this from the head of SIS, even if it was just a verbal one. Of course, what Theron should have done was come to you and asked for your help. This is more true for some classes than others but I can see arguments for any of them, especially if you romanced him. Maybe he was trying to keep you away and uninvolved in the whole thing with Vitiate, or maybe it's just Theron and his "I don't do teams" thing. I know my Jedi character would have told him the very idea of the Sixth Line sounded off. If anyone deserves blame for making things worse, it's Suresh, but even her actions only accelerated Vitiate's plan. Keep in mind the only reason she was mad was because Theron gained intel - that Ziost had a lot of unrest - and acted with Jedi instead of going straight to her so she could draw up battle plans. (With his father as Supreme Commander, I wonder about that dynamic too. Would they fight over this or would Malcom realize Suresh was wrong?) I would love to see a new game chapter with secret Republic Senate intelligence committee hearings about this whole thing, asking your character questions about Ziost and Theron Shan, and you're forced to answer questions about your involvement. I think it would be difficult if you had to provide answers about your relationship to Theron. I doubt they would put this in the game, but I definitely think it would happen in-universe.

What this person said. I think we just need to know some basic information at this point.

This post is perfect. (All of the ones above are, really.) I'm thinking it's the latter too. He's not going to say it, because Theron reasons, and he's going to go into an emotional tailspin. I can imagine him just steeling up, turning really hard over it. Poor Theron. Haha! At least smugglers can be with him without guilt.

Hahaha! Now I want to draw this. I wonder if Satele picked up on your, ahem, connection to Theron and that's why she immediately gives you more responsibility with the Jedi order. She also puts you in charge on Yavin and asks you to protect the troops knowing he's not staying behind. It's like she's saying, 'Okay, I understand what you're going through, but remember, you're a Jedi. Make the right choice.' Like that's going to happen with Mr. Sexy Tightpants hanging around.

Satele does the Grandpa Simpson gif... We tried to start a new thread with the right spelling! Mods deleted it.

I like this philosphy.

Hmm. I didn't consider the shuttle. I think the cutscene implied it was in the wilderness areas out back, though. But I headcanoned it as some handsy grabby makeout stuff out in the woods, then they met up again on Coruscant later for real sex in his bed. I mean, I was kinda laughing at the scene because his mom is right there. You meet with her after your quickie in the woods/shuttle. She's a Jedi! Like she's not going to know something's up when you and her son go missing for a while and then show up again feeling really satisfied? Then again, I romanced him with a Jedi. Other characters might not care so much.

Lana is the only one confirmed as a new companion. She's the first one you get. If you really hate her that much... :/ [deleted para that came off as way too argumentative and edited stuff below] Fans react to the media they consume and they should. I can say I don't like something. This is not a novel. This is an interactive game that asks us to be invested in our characters and our choices. Some of us don't want to be railroaded into playing out storylines that make us sad or uncomfortable. Difficult stories are fine as long as we're still ultimately enjoying them. If we don't like where something is going, we opt out and there's nothing wrong with doing that. It's that simple. Obviously I'm still very much invested in this, so here I am. Complaining on the forums has changed things before. Maybe there's still time for them to make changes. Maybe I really have no reason to worry at all. I have no idea. And to everyone else, for the record, I am very, very sorry for starting a completely new thread on companions instead of replying to any one of the dozen threads already out there.

(Oh jeez. Why am I replying again? Okay, one last time.) How many threads have gone over this exact question? You're right. Your guess is no better or worse than mine. But reunite or reconnect does not mean they will be full companions. That's what some of us are trying to figure out. You have people in this very thread arguing that none of them are returning as companions. That's why I asked for input on the quote from the article.

Or it's an educated guess. Bioware has written jumps like this before. Dragon Age, Mass Effect... lots of characters written out between games. it's not lookin' good for our current companions! And I would love to eat my words come Oct.

You may want to use quote tags there. And yeah, that's what I plan on doing. Unsub, maybe come back after I read spoilers. I have no problems with this. I don't mind missing rewards. The Nico companion is the only one I'm interested in and the timing works for me.

If story is what they're promoting, then the story should be something that interests you, yes? I'm sure you don't see every movie or play every game that comes out. Sometimes things work for people. Sometimes they don't. Awww. You can't invest so much of yourself in whether or not someone likes the same things as you. The game isn't going to fail or succeed based on the opinions of a handful of fans on a forum, not me, not you. It'll succeed if it's a good game - period. There are lots of financially successful things I have no part of. The same is true for you, I'd imagine. My only reason for making this thread was because I belatedly found a quote that implied a direction to this game that I'm not happy with. I wanted to make sure I was reading this correctly and not jumping to conclusions, because what I read was really disappointing. Right now, I'm about 85% sure that I won't be resubbing once it expires for me next month. Based on all the evidence so far, I think it's just not for me anymore. I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I've really enjoyed this game so far and I don't want the fun to end.