Read my last post u answered again and then read my reply to this when I have the time to answer it.

Why are u assuming I mean full movement when I spcifically said that it and cc needs balance? I also never said that a sniper should be able to do 10k hits on the move from instas

Its not that u dont agree with me. Its that ppl are to focused on shooting down suggestions to add something constructive. And some ppl have very selective minds when it comes to what they want to missunderstand. This makes a person pathetic in my mind. U for example assume that I have never played on max PvP and that I only play smash. And based on that u clam that I'm to bad to be taken seriously. And thus making Devs job very easy. See what I mean?

I corrected myself but be my guest and focus on the drama

Ok so lets keep this great pvp and just be happy. U guys are pathetic. This youtube clipp illustrates this forum quite well, Im out:

Well the situation is pretty extreme. Are u working for BW? So when it becomes messy u just shut off and encurage the ignoring of subs? U want me to analyze consequenses? Are u for real? Im not here to fix this, Im here to start a discussion and ppl like u are to busy to pick on ppl making suggestions. Stop making it easy on yourself and help out.

Ok when I come to think about it, its not the cover mechanic specefically. Its that ranged classes needs to be stationary to apply decent dps that should be looked at.

U are stating things ive already recognized. yes removing CC today is not the answer. What Im saying is that mobility is way more fun than the brainless use of CC. I really need some credits if Im to design abilities and ****. Really, demanding from BW that they actually give a **** about pvp is already on auto ignore, so lets do their job aswell. Cover mechanic really has to go. I dunno why this have been so focused on snipers and sins but they are kind of the extremes here

Cause something needed buffing so the obvious choice was buffing CC:P EDIT: Sorry I meant the easiest choice

What I want u to agree on is that sitting rooted is boring and outdated;). There are other ways fo doing things. Though some classes would take some work. We can have roots breaking on dmg, roots adding resolve or roots add to dmg resistance but the damn roots are still there. Toning it down would make this game more fun and pvp more fluid and not the clunky experience it is right now. But as Snipers are now I get why they need cc to stay viable.

Are u really defending the CC situation? U are assuming that I want to nerf CC, and thats that. That is not the case.

So u want me to pay for playing AND do BWs job on top if that? Im just stating the obvious and my suggestion is that CC needs to be balanced with some brainstorming. Ppl working full time with this should be able to come up with something VERY specific. One that dont really touch the excessive CC issue is that some classes need dmg reduction when rooted. But thats just another lazy fix for a lazy fail mechanic. I've not been around for the discussion for 2 years but something that make everyone more careful when using CC and not just spam them, would be nice.

Indeed, so balance CC with mobility. Not CC with CC

Well thats a given but no matter how much u move as a sniper or classic MM, u need stuff to keep **** of u. Some amount of CC is needed but excessive CC is never the answer.

Thats just not true. If u ask me this proves my point even better. Add to CC to add to TTK is again, bad and lazy design.

Exactly. Lets compensate CC with some CC. lazy!! (disregarding the fact that a Sin is a plant when rooted)

Im honestly considering it. But cover mechanic brings bad memories to my hunter (WoW) days when most of your dmg meant u had to stay put. See this is the problem, when a class needs to stay put to do dmg he needs something to be able to keep range. This **** is just so outdated

I honestly am comfortable with the Assassin style in pvp. I have always enjoyed the freedome and the impact such a class have. I rarely join the main battle though and instead target some strategic objective. Like screwing with a slacking slacking healers or delaying more than one if there are two slacking, capping nodes and screw with recappers. Or putting preassure on a lightly guarded node if my team is in the lead. In a 1v1 I usually play my burst to my advantage and try to use my enviroment in case of knockback. I dont need to sit in roots for 10 seconds and then blinded for 8(?) more while someone heals my initial burst, to understand that this class have defensives. CCs is the primary way of balancing classes in this game and thats why its lazy design. Even though Im able to kill him in the end its no fun gameplay.

I quit this game 2 years ago because of the issues with pvp and I see that its still just as bad if not worse. Honestly I rather sit in stuns, one or two of them and I wont be stunned anymore (mostly). Its all the same, its not like I can range attack on my assassin. After 3 roots I usually just turn by back to my enemy to get it over with. Now 1v1 I might be able to take it and kill my target even if Im rooted 4 times but in a 1v2 situation its a damn perma root situation. Sure maybe I cant expect to win it but I should be able to do something

1-29 is fine. I even had some fun even though theres lots of issues. But 30+? Im sitting in 4 roots in a 1v1 fight, thats just stupid. Its like it becomes all about stationary fighting from both teams in a WZ, if nothing else it looks funny. When it comes down to cluster**** (and lets face it, SWTOR pvp is all about cluster****, its in the WZ design) I just take a step back and have a look at the stupid **** going on and then I move along to defending some lone node. There actually are classes that will have to sit in the roots without being able to do ****. And being rooted 4-5 times in a fight 1v1 or 10v10 is just LAZY DESIGN. CC dont add depth to PvP. Devs? DEVS?

For RP community with a Starwars passion this game is nothing short of perfect. BUT I'm a PvPer that enjoy the spot on star wars feel (I also love the Starwars universe). This is the difference between us and thats why u dont see the problems with PvP (just came back from a 2 year break so I cant really say much about PvE). Yes this is the same game for us all, but u are simplifying stuff way waay to much. If everyone were like u this game would have been alot bigger. PvP have not changed much from release (or beta even) when if comes to the feel of it. Still clunky, buggy (and I dont mean a little) and unbalanced to say the least. LOTS of the bugs have been there from beta and the clunkyness have been there aswell. And let me tell u, PvP is just full of bad. So here's why I came back to this game after 2 years (I quit because of the way Devs were responding to us and the way they just didnt seem to care). Like I said, I love the starwars universe and I really feel starwars when I play. U can compare it to me eating only something called pepparkaka (in sweden, dont really know the english word for it) all day, every day. Ill love it but Ill grow fat and die prematurely

This makes me wonder what BW/EA have been doing these years. I keep hearing that they add new content all the time so here's the deal: Id gladly play this for a year, just as it is with no new content AT ALL if it meant that the major issues with this game are resolved. The overall atmosphere of the game is just great, I really get a SW feel when I play and thats why I came back 2 year later. Sad thing is that I might leave soon again. I ask u ppl, where to post if I want Devs to read?

Ok I love the Starwars universe but I also love PvP. So I've been on a 2 year(ish) break and woooooooow pvp is wierd. Still clunky as hell, forced cramped pvp situations (cluster**** u could say) lag and bugs all over the place. Only thing I can say is an improvement is the obstructed camera view going back to preset faster than before. With the resourses at BW/EAs fingertips, just woooow. What a faliure. Honestly the worst pvp experience Ive had in any mmo. And again considering the resourses, I dont know if its lazy or just a right in the face, **** U to Starwars Fans and gamers out there. Holy crap I really like the story mode of it all but that can only carry me so far. Cant really be bothered with static PvE (even though its a clunky that too), no matter how good. Havent really read anything on the forums but whats the general lvl of satisfaction with this game nowdays?

So we are resorting to spelling comments? Ive enjoyed mmos before. This is not about patience. Take my 1) for example. U want me to have patience with a lazy design? In a way Im more important for the development of this game than u r. Im putting preassure on devs for bad decisions while you are just happy with things. Its about me not having fun for my money. If everyone was just fine with everything nothing would ever get better. That is a big part of life

So where is this going? Answer plz!