Wow i did not expect this thread to go this far but thank you everyone for your input. As a serious question do you believe that 1 healer should be able to heal the dmg of 1 dps? Like if i did nothing but sit there and spam heal myself while 1 dps went to town on me, I believe it should end in a stalemate. I know that's how it was pre 1.2 but has anyone tried this recently and can tell if this is still the case?

^ what this guy said

First let me give you a little background. I normally play as an OP healer in warzones, I'm not a die hard pvper, I pug 100%, only play at night for the daily/weekly quests. I'm rank 60 and have 4 piece BM gear, the rest is champ, ~900 exp. Last night I was specced lethality because I had just done a HM with my guild and hadn't bothered to respec, and something i noticed, was that I was getting no heals and dying VERY quickly. After the match I looked at the scoreboard and yep everyone in that battle ground was dps specced ranging from 190k to 300k dmg. This is the first time ever since release that I have not seen at least 1 healer in a warzone. I know personally i'm pvping 90% less then I was before 1.2 and partially I feel that's because healing is not keeping up with dmg in pvp and it's really impeding on my enjoyment of the game. I have had my weekly pvp quest in my log now for 2 weeks with only a total of 4/9 wins, normally I used to win 4/10 matches a night now I'm struggling to win 1/10 matches. I will still continue to heal just because I feel concealment is useless until you have for bm or higher and lethality is too clunky and squishy for me. I don't know exactly what changed but I guess I'm just looking for other peoples experiences and possibly answers (and "join a group" is not an acceptable answer for me, my play times are too erratic to be reliably in group play)

Lol well that's terrific, thank you for the info though I was unaware of that.

I love people who use the excuse that you can "remove the heat signatures", you do know that toxic scan has a 4.5 sec cooldown... and a spec'd merc/troop can reapply 2 stacks of heat signature every 1.7 secs right(with alacrity). Furthermore heatseaker missle is instant with a whole whopping 15 sec cooldown so every 3 secs you have 4 stacks that you can remove every 4.5 seconds. You try it and let me know how often you don't have stacks on you....

I agree, day 1 armstech crafter here and i was so enthused when i heard new recipes for 1.2. Day comes out and what does armstech get? zilch... I see all these new pvp armor recipes, new crystal recipes, where are the armstech recipes??? Where is my pvp rifle/knife schematics? I've played my lvl 50 op armstech since launch day and guess how many schematics I've gotten from me and ALL my guild....2 and they weren't even lvl 400. I made a brand new bh armortech she's level 47 now, I have 2 full rows of lvl 400 schematics waiting for her in the bank.... wth is bioware thinking??? My highest orange gun i can craft is level 48, I even crit crafted myself a lvl 50 purple assault rifle and it was replaced immediately by a tionese rifle. This is just a flat out joke. The only reason i continue to be an arms is hope for the future and time foolishly devoted.

I'm a heal spec op in some bm gear with all champ (i know champ isnt good anymore but that's besides the point) I have somewhere near 800 expertise. Before the 1.2 patch the most I ever got hit for was close to 5k and could heal myself against 1 dps hitting me and stay alive. Now I'm continually getting hit for 7-7.5k and even spamming my hots and my max heals I can't even keep myself alive against 1 merc. Also spec'd as conceal spec i can promise you no one ever hit for 6k, the highest I ever got against a player was a little over 4k. I've heard before 1.2 some full bm ops were getting 5k. I don't know what they get now because conceal is dead for pvp but that's for another forum. All I can say is HSM is currently nuts and marauders as well, but at least they're not tagging me for 7k.

Appreciate numbers from a BM standpoint, but you seriously have gotten bs over 4k or is that only "fully buffed, adrenal, relic, and poison blade 30%? Cause personally if i get bs anywhere near 3k its a miracle. Ordinarily I don't go looking for buffs before ganking, i just use my relic, PB and HS, 90% of the time i'll get targets to 25% range and then they stun and run or i get jumped by 3 of his buddies.

I totally saw a assassin stun lock me for 20 secs I couldn't do anything to get away while he stared and danced at me for the duration before finally 1 shotting me. I have full bm gear 740 expertise and over 24k hps as a conceal op and this just seems totally overpowered to me. He then full healed before grabbing the ball from mid field and force leapt to the goal line, NERF SINS! OMGWTFBBQSAUSE

Bocherel, I appreciate you noting the troll for what he is and know that he is just trying to get noticed but I see far too many of these posts from a bunch of other people about how OP op's are and I just can't take it anymore. People if you don't want to die in pvp to any class, find a new game.

I don't know if this was mentioned as I was just skimming past the replies but i've noticed that with gear and buffs, the internal % increase to abilities gets totally out of whack. For instance the 10% to periodic effects from medical therapy only gives you the 10% if you are naked. As soon as you start adding gear that 10% becomes about 4%. I'm thinking the same thing is happening to the 10% buff to RN and if you did it naked you you probably see the 10% they say. Horrible coding is all i can think.

Wow x2, i've sat by idly while you've spat misinformation after misinformation but this one literally turned my stomach. I can no longer sit by while you continue your lies that hurt this class even more. Do you understand what you're saying? I have a operative I have 590 expertise normally heal spec, but when I switch to concealment my fully buffed hidden strikes hit for close to 4k. Now after that 4k there is a 1.5 second cooldown before I can use any other ability, guess how long the knockdown is for. Yep you guessed it 1.5 seconds. So even with animation lag, i could get off 1 more attack as you're getting up, lets be stupid and say my bs does 3.5k after that. So in the time that you were knocked down I've done 7.5k. Mind you these are ALL MAX DMG CRITS im saying here. Now if i vanish and reopen and miraculously get another crit for max dmg of 4k i've done 11.5k of your 18k life. Once again 1.5 second cooldown, backstab is now on cooldown so we'll use lacerate 3.8k, now were up to 15.3k + 1.5sec cooldown. 5 globals, 5 cooldowns, 7.5 secs AT BEST results as well as blowing my 2 min cloaking screen cooldown and you're still not dead. Debilitate, 1.5 secs (9 seconds have now passed not your mythical 1.5 sec kill and you're still alive), you now have full resolve) so either you break it and counterstun/punt or, you're a PT and i have one of those as well so i'll use what i know to help you here, personal shield, 15% health regen + medpac and your ready to kill me, or your stun is down and you die followed promptly by me because i've now blown my escape tool to kill you. Now for the next 2 mins I become free kills for anyone in a group, I can no longer double open on solo's making my opening sequence somewhere in the range of 7-8k and fairly laughable dmg after that. Come 1.2 add another 7.5 seconds onto that 9 for a total of 16.5 secs to kill 1 target, every 2 mins. If every other class took that long to kill 1 target you bet there would be ************ the likes you've never heard from EVERY other forum. Please stop spouting lies it makes you look bad and hurts the community in general. Thank you

Boredom, pure and simple. After the dailies are done and the op's havent started I pvp to complete the daily/weekly missions. When those are done I stop. Pvp is the worst part of any mmo but a necessary evil, so being sith I embrace the evil for as long as my frustration can take, then have real fun playing the actual game.

Both my friend and I started pvping after lvl 50 and after the champ token change, he's now rank 60 and I'm rank 55. All the dailys and weeklys as well as the 200/200 badges have done nothing but taken the champ bags. Out of all of the bags from both of us, I got an augment. 1 out of hell i don't even know anymore chances. He and I are now both full champ gear but it took BM title to get it, off nothing but commendations. Rng may be rng, but that is ridiculous. I guess you could look at this a good way in that we never had wasted champ badges to spend.

I've already made a PT Pyro that's lvl 45 now, the story line sucks but soo much more effective then the op. I still use the op as a warzone/HM/Op healer but nice to have a dps to use when i need it. I was contemplating making a marauder or assassin as well after the patch to fulfill my light saber niche.