My server has less than 30 on fleet during peek hours. Just rerolled on Fatman. Having fun. Hit 10. Went to pvp as normal. Hutball. 1) Binded pass hutball to mousekey. 2) Helped chase down their carrier. 3) Helped defend ours (the few times we had the ball) 4) Lost 1-6 Surprised that I had 0 reward across the board. Is this because I came into the game at 0-2 or is this because there is 0 reward for loss now? I had 6 medals. If this is true I see good and bad points. Good: +No more people afking to rewards as you have to try to win at all cost. +People will go for objectives more often. +I get to play 1-49 PvP more =D Bad: -Even bigger reason to quit when you are losing at the beginning of the game. -When it is close you get nothing for a great game. -People losing because of being outgeared will never "catch up."

Sent/Mara /thread

Not the point. I agree with you. The overall goal of PvP is fun. The point is that this patch was to make PvP gearing less grindy.... and it did not. Yes. New 50s will be able to get BM gear pretty fast. It is currently only a week or 2 for full champ. It does not matter if you call it BM gear last patch or WH gear this patch... It will take a long time to get the top PvP gear. Again, the point is that this patch was to make PvP gearing less grindy... and it did not. There is not much different between Champ and BM but people were still yelling and screaming everyone should have the same gear in PvP no matter how much the play. The point is it WH gear will be just as hard or harder to obtain as BM was pre 1.2. The patch was to make PvP gear more accessible to all no matter the amount played.... and it did not. Note: I agree with everything you said... it was just missing the point of the post. This patch is no less of a gear grind than pre 1.2.

So it seems like Bioware was saying the game was bit grindy when it came to PvP. People complained that BMs were trouncing those that were not only because they had more time for the game (I personally don't believe this to be the case). So... SWTOR PvP was to become less grindy by having all valor requirements taken out of the game. Now with no way to get rated WZ comms and a main hand WH item costing 3400+ rated comms.... that will be over 10,000 comms for a weapon. I saw on another post that to get a full rated set it will be around 84,000 WZ comms. Sure you can get blue pvp gear now for pretty much free but to move on to War Hero you will need to play about 1,000 war zones. Adding on many are on low pop and very imbalanced servers this will become pretty much impossible. Way to go Bioware. *golf clap*

He knows that guy's rear. I wonder how they met? PS. Combine servers meow!

Don't worry. Now you can just buy your champ set blues and you don't even have to be 60v to start grinding BM gear. Toss that champ gear and get into BM/WH with in a week or two.

One less person on a already dying server here. But grats on your BM token =)

nb4 delete

The only thing keeping me subbed and possibly subbed for the future was going to be ranked WZ. Now I don't have to make the hard decision about if I should play SWTOR or spend all video game time on D3.

No reason to pvp on your new 50 alts right now until 1.2. Besides for the fun of being stomp by people that over gear you. Just wait until 2.1, buy recruit gear, grind BM/WH. You just may realize that you are tired of the game during this break. T minus 39-20-10

News update! Rated PvP in SWTOR is a joke. T minus 39-20-23

If you get rid of friendly pulls leaps you also have to get rid of enemy pulls leaps. Some of those pulls leaps also stun so get rid of all stuns/knockbacks. Also they are defensive/protective abilities so also get rid of all defensive and protective cds. Wait.. nm... keep it the way it is. Maybe people should stay away from the edge of the pits so ball carrying leapers will not jump up to score.

For people who believe the following statement is true: Why should there be ANY gear progression. When 1.2 comes out why not have players go to the PvP areas on the fleet and pick up their "pvp" gear for free. No credits, no WZ comms. I would say because in this style of game people want gear progression. Lets have it one way or the other. Either there is or there is not gear progression instead of this "We will give payers that do not want gear progression a feeling of accomplishment by providing a little gear progression." Whatever. T-41 days.

Why would MVP points not count pre-50? You still get valor for them at any level. And what everyone else said. You get 0 healing stats for not raising someones health.

Quick reply with only reading the first few replies. You see less healers in pvp now as they will not be as useful in pvp after 1.2. It will be better to have an additional dps on your team. Inc sent/mara flood.