Mathrim, are we being trolled?! I can't tell anymore. Let me be clear: Mando/mercs suck. Like the WNBA. Now you come trolling along and say, the WNBA doesn't really suck, it's more so that the NBA is better in comparison.... Ok. you win. I don't care if you shoot the NBA players in the leg (aka nerf the other healing classes) or give the WNBA players steroids (aka buff mando/mercs), all we're saying is that it isn't an equal playing field by far. Then you said if mando's were made stronger no one would die... How about: if mando's were made stronger, we might be able to insert them into RWZ's, then we could actually start evaluating what they could do, healing-wise. People die in RWZs now, and the mando/merc healer is nonexistent, so buffing them will not eliminate the ability to kill. In fact, it will make it slightly easier if we take the place of sages. The reason is sages cast bubbles, which prevent damage. Commandos and scoundrels cast healing and hots onto players who have already sustained damage to gain health back. This is a drastically different approach. When you first run into a wz and everyone is bubbled up, the health bars don't move. The health bars would move much quicker out the gate without the sage healer. Go back under you bridge, sir.

lol. Prob a true statement. I hit /played on my mando and I want to jump off a cliff. I feel like we have offered so many reasonable fixes for the devs that have been completely ignored they must be looking exclusively at pve numbers and worried any buffs to the class will throw off the pve balance or something. At this point even if they buff us in 2.4, I probably won't be happy unless a dev actually responds with an explanation of what/why all this was ignored for so long. The first patch note I want to see should read: HTL finishes the cooldown on tech override. Second note should include: Combat medic will be able to spec into HTL finishing the cooldown on recharge cells as well. Class fixed. Your welcome, BW.

I hope everyone got to see what I wrote in the deleted thread. My response to any of this is why wait for a consensus? HSP is not exploiting the bolster bug for rated warzones (or regs to the best I have monitored). Other guilds can do as they please, there is no way I can police or enforce, so I'll just live with the decision. Hope the others can at least try to get on board with this. I won't be loggin onto alts and trying to snag screenshots because they don't mean anything. It comes down to the challenge you want in this game. There are two schools of thought: 1) It's available and at my disposal so to guarantee the next guy isn't buffed unfairly against me I will also do it. 2) I can't guarantee the other guy has the same advantage so I will play without the bolster bug exploit to guarantee we are at the same level or I may be gimped. HSP is practicing option 2. I didn't call anyone out and I am not saying option 1 doesn't make sense. I understand the reasoning behind both and whatever your guild decides to do is completely a product of Bioware putting you in a compromising situation. There is no guarantee of a level playing field right now, which is sad. Only other thing I can think to do is start streaming to go thru inspecting each player during the match on my team for the viewers. I'll try to set something up.

I was a huge SW BFII player. We had a league established, wish I could remember the name. I'm hoping someone will recognize me from the the league. I was in the Kessel Runners guild (gm was Hansolo3). After playing in a lot of competitve Halo tournaments and playing almost every first person shooter under the sun, the Battlefront series offered an amazing 3rd person experience. One of the problems with online play was individual player hosting. We were always waiting for certain players to open a room for us to play in, and the connection was always a worry. The other problem was after BFII came out, the introduction of XBOX360 caused MASSIVE lag issues for non-360 users. The league players became disgruntled with the uneven playing field and our last tournament we tried to cap the 360 users on each team during matchups but it was still a lagfest disaster. Really hope they complete BFIII and it makes it to retail. I will throw my money at it in a heartbeat. PS- Friendly-fire OFF w/ vanguard mines FTW. haha, so OP I love it

LOL She looks good at the bar, when you're in walmart and you see the SWTOR cover on the magazine. So you buy her a few drinks, a few months of subscription, just to try her out. Everything seems fine. BUT THEN! Then she wants to move in, you think, "Cool, we can split the bills, plus she helps clean and does most of the cooking, I could get used to this." But when you start dealing with her on a daily basis, and getting into the minute details, like slight class balances, she starts to become much less attractive. Then you start going out again with your buddies, just to test the waters, with a Beta test weekend here, or a halo expansion pack there. Next thing you know, she starting to become a real ***** at home, and you tell her to pack her stuff and leave. But noooooo, she's not leaving. You have a subscription that doesn't run out til next month, so you're stuck with her. Plus, you just knocked her up two months ago and you can't abandon your kid, the guildies would miss you too much. So you stick around for a bit longer, just to do the right thing. ...He's 3 years old now. Maybe you can take the kid with you if you just move out??! Great idea right? The guildies would love to switch over to a new game, plus your new house is pretty pimpin with all these nice toys. But no, your girl keeps buying him ice cream and promising to take him to chuck e cheese with general statements like, "You're not gonna believe the INSANE amount of CRAZY AWESOME RIDICULOUS improvements we're working on for pvp. LOUD NOISES!!!!" So if you take the guildies with you to the new place, they will always be looking back at the old house wondering if mint chocolate chip is sitting in the freezer like she promised it would in October. So you finally decide enough is enough and instead of moving out, you're going to throw her out, so you put all her stuff out in the driveway by cancelling your subscription and going f2p. But when she shows up that evening, she has two kids with her she adopted that day saying she wants to merge the households together to make a more complete family. The two kids are from the West Coast and they don't get along with your East Coast kid, but it makes you feel more like a unit with more action going on around the house. But you wake up in the middle of the night and realize the fundamentals of the relationship aren't there. Plus your buddy at work has been married to a girl named WoW for 10 years and though he is wifed up and she expects him home right after work every day, at least she shaves downstairs and lets him give her a dirty sanchez on his birthdays. She may be a little old, but she at least knows how to please a man. Kinda awkward he's married to her, since she's your ex, but they have been happy for all these years, so more power to them. So you haven't been able to leave her, though you're unhappy. Plus you bought her a nice car, a lot of expensive jewelry, and you prepaid on a bawlin vacation this summer, all paid for in cartel packs, so you're pot committed for at least this year to her. But while on the bawlin vacation you get really high and you wake up with a distant memory of an exotic girl taking you for a night on the town with crazy sex. You can't remember her face, but in your cell phone there's a new number logged under the name... Titan.

...... IT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. does that help? lol. It's ranked pvp. messing up one stun can cost you the game. Clicking on a speeder too late can cost you the game. a few seconds of unsustained dps is MASSIVE. It's can be the difference in killing a class and them getting healed up, especially when a class like commando doesn't even have an execute. CILAS!!!!!! Make him stop! I play ranked every night on my commando, what the hell do i know?!

You should ABSOLUTELY balance game-play based on ranked warzones because that's the one place where you can evaluate controlled fights. I could see how in regs you could get dellusional about a class' ability, especially commandos. I see screenshots from commandos who say everything is fine because they hit 2 mil damage. It's usually from a reg where the cross healing from three healers overcomes the focus fire so massive numbers are put up and there's only a few deaths. Ranked matches show you everything you need to know about the class and right now the sage/gunslinger/smash dps is taking a dump on the commando.

It's hard to explain if you don't play all the classes listed above, but since I do, I can at least tell you the "filler" damage between the slinger and commando are completely lopsided. And we are all aware the difference between big dot and aoe damage numbers vs heavy burst output, but the problem is it's not sustained long enough to make it a major threat. The class needs a buff. Then when you look at healing for the commando, which was my first choice back at launch, the healing is a complete joke. I feel like I've been in a long term relationship with Bioware when i hit /played and now it's time to break up w her. To prevent feeling like an *****hole, i've decided to list out my grievances, though i know she will refuse to change. Maybe this will help with the closure when it's finally time to leave. Who knows. Maybe she will come to my house in the middle of the night and leave a patch note at my door saying she's sorry and wants to work it out. Or maybe she will give a bj to the sentinel living across the street again like a whore. Either way, it's going to be a bumpy ride this summer.

That sucks, i was actually looking forward to getting home from work and at least having fun with everyone knocking them down with mortar volley. That's how desperate I am to have fun in this game now.. Either way, commando dps is fine, the OP has no clue what he's talking about my best friend's uncle's pet squirrel's brother posted a screenshot of him doing 1.5 mil damage and the next dps-er was around 900k in a voidstar reg, so that means the class is fine, if anything it needs a nerf.

lol. You mean having a lvl 37 assassin doesn't count??! Skolops- change of plans- change your signature so none of the levels are showing on your toons, just the name and class, then people will think you've played enough of the game to know what you're talking about. hurry and do it before people get home and actually start reading the forums.

I'm probably one of the best commando/mercs in the game on any server, so i'm not sure what your going to prove. I haven't felt the need to justify my ability to make my point, but I'm sure some of the imps playing against me can vouch for what I do. You're starting to sound like a dev by suggesting the issue is positioning. I'm waiting for someone to RP ackbar and tell me it's a trap.

At this point any post on this thread is going to get a sarcastic response. I hit /played now and it's depressing me considering the lack of improvements this game has made. I just want to see drastic changes that I know won't happen but will make the pvp in this game interesting again. Make the node caps in civil war 3 secs, make huttball sudden death if both teams are tied after 8 mins. I don't really care. Just do something please to change it up. In the mean time I was catching up on the forums this morning and i see all this talk back and forth and i have three pm's asking if the pot5 guilds are transferring to the Bastion or the other way around. I really don't think there's going to be much rwz's in a few months anyways on either server if they don't change some stuff up, so i'm starting to not care at all. As much bickering as everyone has done and epeen flexing, we will probably have to take it to a more viable forum like halo or battlefield until something happens with this game.

Mortar volley knocks everyone down?!?!?!?!!?! Why didn't someone tell me?!! Show's over guys. Everyone go home. Problem solved. Smashers beware, I'm going to mortar volley you to the ground and force you to eat all 4k damage. Without reading the notes, I'm assuming the mortar volley knocks snipers out of cover and sorcs out of force barrier all the while not filling resolve on anyone? This is going to change everything. Thanks for the heads up!

^ this LOL

Not sure if I'm supposed to address this. I play the class extremely well and I can ***** on people's numbers in regs, I'm only concerned with the numbers in rateds. Smasher/Gunslinger/Sniper/Sage can pump out huge numbers dps wise, and sage/scoundrel can do almost twice the hps. Cilas, can you handle my light work for me? btw, God forbid the commando/merc gets to be the op class for a few months. :eek::eek: