Nice try.

It's also amazing that the majority of "world PvP" is people killing defenseless people, or preoccupied people. It's also amazing that most "hardcore" PvPers consider killing defenseless people "real PvP". I like my opponents to have an equal footing so that when I beat you, you know it is because I am better than you. I don't know the particulars of what this thread is about, but I am pretty certain my post is accurate to the situation without even knowing it.

This post wins the thread, lol. Are you moving to another MMO? I am starting to feel like this one has run it's course on me. Just curious as to what else is out there as most options from an MMO standpoint seem to suck.

Mackayla, my post was 100% directed at OPFOTM. He is a douchebag who obviously derives his self-worth from this video game. He is not the only one, but he is certainly one of the most vocal as of late. My post was not directed at any guild or any other player.

The PvP communities are much too small. The comprise potentially as few as 40 people or so on the entire server. With that kind of number, you can have huge disparities in skill. For PvP to be successful, no matter how awesome you think you are and that others should simply "get better", there has to be a huge range of skill levels and team ratings that are getting paired together. A 500 rated team will never be as good as a 2000 rated team (arbitrary numbers). As a 2000 player, expecting 500 level players to simply "get better" is ludicrous. Instead of asking the lower rated teams to queue up so that you can perpetually pound them into oblivion for some altruistic notion of them getting better on your part, perhaps you should petition BW to let you play teams that are up to your "level" from other servers. I use that word loosely as anyone who is truly serious about competitive PvP matches does not play SWTOR. SWTORs PvP, without matchmaking, is not competitive. I having a funny hunch you wouldn't like playing rateds the moment you were constantly playing teams as good as you are.

Stuns would be a better mechanic if TTK was better. As it stands against good teams, you will be killed in a stun, hence all of the complaints. TTK is the issue, not stuns.

I promise this happens Pub-side, too.

This thread is much less fun if people are not getting angry. Perhaps we need a new way to start drama.

No, u.

If your only rebuttal is to point out a typo, I think we know you have nothing to say. Just because the rules allow something, doesn't make it right. This is something that is very important for young people to learn.

Yea I was trying to come up with different first lines and mixed them up. It is corrected now. And calling you a bunch of douchebags for douchebag behavior is not really grade-school insults. Edit: I like how we are being painted the bad guys by you by simply calling you out for being mean to people for really no other reason than to stroke your collective e-peens.

Here is my pseudo-haiku for you: After douchebag vid, Goof Troop insulted by Cov calling them douchebags

You misunderstood my post.

"I'm cool. I can swear on the internet."

Implying that all of the other news outlets are credible... lol.

"I need to validate myself by beating up on people who I outgear and outskill." If this "PvP" quest required PvP to complete, I wouldn't bat an eye. As it stands, I really see no reason to mess with people in the PvP zone. I get that PvP is supposed to happen in the PvP zone, but I am not a douche just to be one because the rules allow me to. I never killed lowbies when I played on PvP servers in other games. I just don't grief because it does nothing for me to beat up on someone who can't defend themselves.

If the PvP quests actually pertained to PvP in any way, I would agree with you (like the old Ilum where kills were part of the quest). With these dailies, they essentially just force you to run around doing PvE quests in a contested area. I think it is pretty stupid. You won't see me complaining about getting killed in Ilum. I will say it is poorly designed, though. "Go kill a bunch of random mobs in a contested area and hope you don't get ganked. Hooray, world PvP."

You guys really like to service each other. And, apparently, you don't charge for it either.

We are almost there. Perhaps for Makeb? You can do it, Bioware!

Stroke me, stroke me.

Trauma. Bioware is already on your side! This is also ignoring the PvP changes in 1.2 where basically DPS have free reign on the PvP system ever since.

Because real PvP happens on PvP servers. It isn't just a gankfest until level cap (and is still a gankfest at level cap). More true would be that PvE servers are for people who want to level without getting stomped by max level toons while they are in the middle of questing. I doubt there is any difference in skill between the server types.

I said "getting hit". I doubt it is fun for people new to PvP and trying it out for the first time. I shrug it off as someone who wants self-validation by stomping undergeared lowbies. I have been playing longer, though. It isn't the best way to foster new players sticking it out until 50 and potentially subscribing.

Because getting hit for 6K in lowbie PvP when you have 12-13k health is fun, amirite?

I don't underestimate it. High-end PvP is harder and requires more skill. Period. Until SWTOR, my whole MMO existence was PvE and even then I would freely admit that high-end PvP requires more skill.