I like that. Especially as last night the Op leader absconded with all loot at the last boss at the end of EVHM.

@Cox_The_Beast I was reading through your post about Ravagers thinking sounds just like the group I was in, until you mentioned the 2nd wipe on Master and Blaster. But we only wiped once. Same problem though.

TBH I think I would have dropped before that and think you must have the patience of a saint. I had a SM RR with my Sage Healer again the other night and after the tank went down and one of the DPS I thought oh my god (This was the first bit where you have all those mobs). This is going to be a long run. All roughly the same level (Slinger, Guardian DPS and Shadow tank) The tank, (I think he was a good tank tbh) jumped into 1 mob, now you think the dps would follow. Nope not this group, the each aggro'd the other mobs to the sides and then pulled them all back to where the tank was. As much as i tried I coudlnt keep them all up, and was left with me healing the Guardian DPS., throwing heals on him and myself and using disturbance to get the last mob down. At this point the Tank and other DPS just watched rather than jump back into the fight. I apologised, the tank said no problem it happens and we continued on our way. I thought it was going to be a long run, but it went really quick after that. Apart from Ikoral's lightning not killing the adds and we all jump down into the pit to reset the fight it was really good. Bit of ninja looting going on but all in all a good run, everyone agreeing and saying thanks. Couple of people added to friends list. Why can't they always be like this lol

I know what you mean. When I'm group leader in FP's, I usually ask if people know tactics (especially after checking peoples gear, not to the point where i'm an*l about it, Endurance and all that rubbish, more making sure they have the right armour for their class), and happy to provide guidance. When people don't speak up, there are multiple wipes, I usually quit.

That was the thing, he didn't, he kept going off in his own little world, hence the deaths. His armour was f**k*d, he had absorption, shield and defense in his armour, maybe he thought he would survive. Before we started I asked if he was a slinger-tank to be told the Shield/Absorp/Def helps keep him alive. Yeah looked like it lol

I was talking about it with my mate yesterday (He used to play SWTOR, went back to WoW and now plays neither as his wife had a baby - no time, bless him) and he said, I bet he got no heals after. I mean, come on, why insult the guy who is going to heal him. Yes he stuck around. The group said absolutely nothing all through except thanks at the end. I agree, when I play my DPS I don't expect heals. If I get one it's a bonus and yes thankful and also say thanks to the healers. Also same as previous poster when play tank. I like to think i manage my CD's effectively to keep myself going and hope the healer focuses on me. The fact this guy, ran a different way, got knocked back, ran and aggro'd everything in his way to try and get back to the group, causing us to wipe then moans no heals, beggers belief. If he does that every single TFP, FP, OP (Btw he was unguilded), he is going to have to manage his credits effectively for his repairs. I'm also unguilded on TRE rep side so if anyone want's an up and coming Sage Healer for low level PVP and Heroics/FP's -

Last night, TFP Kuat Drive Yards. leveling my Sage Healer (lvl 42), a gunslinger (lvl 17), a sentinel (lvl 38) a guardian tank (lvl 18). There we are, just going through to the prisoner area and the Tank runs left, so I follow as does the Sent. The slinger goes the other way, straight into the champion droid. Shoots at it, gets knocked off the platform and dies as landed near 2 mobs. We defeat the other droid (elite), the tank runs forward, throwing heals left right and center and kill the mobs but eventually, I'm out of force, unable to keep the tank and sent up and we all die. Over chat the slinger says to me "what role are you supposed to be?", so respond with healer. He then says "learn your role, you are a crap healer". Obviously this gets my goat, especially after keeping the sent and guardian up, kill most of the mobs and then get taken out by the droid. So I respond with "you expect me to follow you because you aggro the droid, all those mobs and I should keep you up? He says a good healer can keep us all up. From the other side of the room where i can't reach you? Anyway, after his tirade, he went on ignore, got no heals, died 7 times (had to be rez'd by the other 2) and we completed the fp with no other deaths. Was I a bast**d? Yes probably. Took him off ignore, hope to see him in some more runs for more of the same

All Huttball!

I also use a Razer Sphex gaming mouse mate - they are just awesome!

Logitech G50 with an Anker 8200dpi Mouse. Yes I'm a clicker :-)

. That was the thing, they said 1 token per person, guild or pug. Loot rules were explained very clearly at the start of the run. I believe the other PUG who was there won the offhand.

I've not seen a Master Looter take something in an Op for themselves, but I have seen the Op leader say "LF2T, 4DPS, 1H for ToS SM, Main hand is reserved". TBH, I don't think he/she managed to get a group together or he/she hadn't the 4 hours I was online. Lot's of comments followed saying "yeah f***k that, good luck with that"

I joined a guild run (won't mention the name obviously) where they had Master Looter, I didn't mind as I think its a fair system. However, after winning the roll for Bracers to add to my set for the bonus (3/8), the Op leader gave them to the person who scored highest in his guild. His reason was that I had (198) bracers already so didn't need them. I didn't rage quit, didn't argue, completed, took my comms and left. Added every single one of them from that guild/op to my ignore list so hopefully I will never end up in one of their runs again.

:-) thanks for the link and info. Have signed up.

:-) Trouble I have is the guild I am in is only Empire side and have yet to make friends Rep side. I play on TRE if anyone is about and fancies assisting a low level Sage healer :-) Thanks for all the replies again with the kiting tips.