On a serious note, do Mara's really need nerfed? People buy into things like this far to easily. Amazingly enough the terrible sorc's with their low survivability when played by great players dominate( see pot5's sorcs). People need to swallow the pill that it's them not their class. I'm not saying Mara's are not in a good place, but folks tend to whine because they got a beat down from a superior player. Come to grips with that fact before another class is broken. Ap pt's both hybrid and regular, sorcs as madness,jugg tanks, op heals, snipers are all very strong and equal in their role to mara's. Mercs are not far behind. Play your class better, learn to counter and go on about your day. Player>class with a few exceptions.

A very nice counter to the ap pt tank is sin/sorc deeps combo. The leth sniper will or rather should be much more limited by cleanse, but since all teams run with op heals there is no way to cleanse sorc dots. Thus the effectiveness of double sorc. That comps succeeds very well but has probably the two best sorcs in the entire game powering, let alone arguably the best op healer. Player skill is most definitely a huge factor, but so are playtime togather, comp ect. That's what results in great teams.

Gayle hit me up on Urbanmeyer. Been a while bro good to see you still around.

New vanguard here as well. Is the 280 crit really worth it, instead of power stacking? I play as ap in ion and thought that it would be necessary but other advised to just stack power. Which way seems to yield the best results?

Op if you play in the evening time frame 9pm cst shoot Naylun, Bogend or myself a tell. We will group ya up. We are fairly new to the server but, are interested in trouncing imps nightly.

I am wondering which ends up being more productive in an arena format. With shielding now covering more attack types than defense, which helps me to do my job better and more consise? Are keyboardninja's values still correct? Are the majority of attacks in pvp melee and ranged weapon damage or force/tech? I personally think force and tech attacks are more frequent in the current meta as well the pts. All that said I am going to shift my stat allocations from defense/endurance heavy to shield/absorb heavy and play a few days worth of arena this way. If anyone has done any testing or previous play stacking shield and absorb please post up and save me the time.

Thanks white. Im looking for a home for knucklehead(scoundrel) heals. If any of the three ranked pub guilds are interested Pm me or post here. Fat

Title says it all. Is undercon the only one?

Best I came up with was lackofskillxx. Closest to the truth as well!!

Wow that is an excellent question. I was looking for a rundown on inc damage myself. I tried swapping exp crystals for endurance one's boosting my hp pool to 40k, thus increasing my hd ticks slightly. I honestly feel like the extra hp pool is rather nice for huttball ect when running a 27/17/2 ball carrier spec. I would imagine this may make us even stronger against k/e damage but even weaker against force/ tech damage. Also when does flat out damage reduction apply? Fat

I just wanted to see what other shadows are running spec and gear wise for solo guarding , off node defending. I personally have tried just about every spec and gear set up possible. What is working best for everyone. My favorite thus far is the hybrid kinetic/infil. I have found this to be the spec giving me the most survivability against multiple attackers. I run this spec in full tank gear. It is a delay tactic, utilizing stealth for as long as possible, then pulling one away, whole ccing the other until help arrives. This spec is very strong against everything besides the dreaded operative, shadow tandem. What set up is working for others?

I just wanted to see what other shadows are running spec and gear wise for solo guarding , off node defending. I personally have tried just about every spec and gear set up possible. What is working best for everyone. My favorite thus far is the hybrid kinetic/infil. I have found this to be the spec giving me the most survivability against multiple attackers. I run this spec in full tank gear. It is a delay tactic, utilizing stealth for as long as possible, then pulling one away, whole ccing the other until help arrives. This spec is very strong against everything besides the dreaded operative, shadow tandem. What set up is working for others?

People need to remember that 2.0 changed a lot of the aspects wrt pvp. Vets being beaten by lesser geared people is a strong possibility because of this. He or she whoon has digested 2.0 and adapted the quickest reap the rewards regardless of gear or skill. It's knowledge that enabled some of these happenings. I for one played a lot on the pts. Guess what, when 2.0 hit I knew the tricks, rotations, ect which enabled me to continue face rolling! A players skill is definitely a sum of many components. Please all of you lowbie Heros roll on over to shadowlands, I'd be happy to show you how real pvp vets perform! ! Ps. If your too lazy to put in the effort for gear which makes you a stronger player, then it's time to go! Get too 55 gear up and play some ranked. Your skill is all that matters then!