When players express their frustrations with SWTOR you can take it in one of two ways... 1. the mass of players who enjoy the game see it as "whining"... 2. for most others, including the game developers and administrators, these frustrations are nothing less than "constructive criticisms". Granted, SWTOR is still in its infancy and bound to have its fair share of problems that need attention. My concern is in the direction Bioware has taken. So much effort is being put into addressing EXPLOITS that many of the individual "constructive criticisms" are being neglected. A daunting task, I can imagine...but if Blizzard can do it shortly after launch, Bioware can too. Biowares intentions are true...I believe they are trying to make the game a better environment for the majority. But in so doing, they are neglecting the individual complaints that is costing them one subscription cancellation at a time...and in time, these cancellations will add up. What the devil am I rambling on about? PVP of course (this IS the PVP forum). Bioware has given such a blatant advantage to the serious gamer, that it is ultimately costing them the subscriptions of both the serious and casual player. The serious player is becoming bored...the casual player frustrated. If you have no idea what I'm talking about just look at the PVP forums... "No credit for kills in Ilum", "The gear discrepancy is killing it for the new level 50s", "When is Bioware going to address the Imp/Pub Imbalance", "20 Champion bags and only one Champion piece?" "Leaving the warzones has become rampart" etc, etc, etc... Blutz was right in his post "Face it, the game isn't bad". But it isn't great either...and its not heading in the direction of great. It takes great to keep subscription renewals active. And for those of us casual players with high stress lives looking for some relief in a fantasy based MMORPG, we need "great". We've seen it in the past with Everquest and WOW...I genuinely hope that Bioware can make the shift and evolve this game into "great"...but they have to hear us first. Thanks for listening (umm, reading)

bump...did bioware admins all go on vacation?

I get no credit for kills towards my daily/weekly on Illum, and I get no credit for Warzones towards my daily/weekly. What do you expect us to do Bioware, cancel our accounts?:confused: Roll the patch back or something until you can get these PvP breaking bugs fixed.

Bump. Great point Hartz. Hopefully Bioware fixes this before too many casual players leave the game exasperated.