I am the Main Tank for my guild. So far we are 5/5 normal and 4/5 hardmode EV. I am full Immortal spec, geared in half Columi half Rakata and have serious threat issues. I Backhand on cooldown and use every other ability I have only to see the boss turn and hit someone else. Our sniper and mercenary pull off me constantly with their 4-5k crits. I usually have to taunt and AOE taunt a few times during the first couple minutes of a fight. Juggernauts need either more threat or higher damage coefficients for our abilities. We all know Immortal Tanks hit like a wet noodle so I would prefer more damage personally. Now I am viewing this forum and seeing many Jugg's looking for other solutions, trying hybrid specs in rage and vengeance tree's which I am thinking about trying myself. Something is obviously wrong with the class if people are speccing out of the TANK tree in order to tank and hold agro effectively in the endgame operations. PS: If you are not having threat issues your DPS is bad plain and simple. Its not like I can tell them to hold off on damage with these tight enrage timers. Also I am talking about PVE only. Signed, Extremely Frustrated Tank