As a madness main sorc since 1.0 these changes are at least a step in the right direction. I would have perfered a calculated damage increase to force lighting to average out the DPS instead but thats because i never liked using lighiting strike in rotation to start with. As for everyone complaining about force management I think a reduced cost of Force Leech would do the class wonders in longer sustained fights (Master Mode raids) Target dps seems to be aimed at HM dps checks. Which isnt the hardest PvE content in the game which seems like a rather large design flaw

8m HM Torque http://imgur.com/4R2BS8f after a month we finally filled out the roster xD

To prevent more issues regarding time of kills we should do what Worlds did in 2.0 idk about current times but yea http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=1440 Just move this window over your game screen before screenshoting kill.

http://i.imgur.com/9b1v3uh.jpg Ashen Order Sparky kill. Dont think we even bothered a shot of ToS first boss hah As for Bulo Ashen did it at 10:32 server time on the 2nd whatever that turns out to be placement wise idk.

Madness for PvE dps is far lower then Lighting however you have fairly impressive Self Heals and AoE. That being said lighting is typically the better spec for PvE right now provided you dont stand in stuff.

Ashen Orders kills were improperly ordered on the chart. 1st boss 4/17/13 at 4:28 am UTC http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-19_12_57_42_389146_zps470210ad.jpg 2nd 4/22/13 4:27 am UTC http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-21_23_27_31_646244_zps12236119.jpg 3rd 4/23/13 2:45 am UTC http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-22_21_35_51_327320_zps2a8525e6.jpg 4th 4/23/13 3:42 am UTC http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-22_22_42_47_094008_zps26ec9aa0.jpg 5th 4/24/13 4 am UTC http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-23_23_00_22_297068_zps7145605c.jpg 6th 4/24/13 4:16am UTC http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-23_23_16_32_828579_zps27e1a8be.jpg 7th 4/26/13 5:38 am UTC http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-26_00_38_37_649597_zps374343a0.jpg There now we can be listed for everything properly =D So what happened to raid ranks i miss that site T_T lol

Oh completely forgot about SM TFB 5/5 haha. Also if you could put in Ashen Orders website like the other guilds that would be great. http://ashenorder.guildlaunch.com/

AO 16 man SM S and V http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-27_01_58_36_823891_zpsa8a8742b.jpg

Some of your examples are flawed. Most range dont have 35 meters, zorns AOE should never hit melee anyways melee should stay on toth the entire fight, TFB last boss you need to be on the platform to hit the things anyways so rng has nothing to do with it. Also melee have a increased dps compared to range to compensate for movement. Being a melee dps is all about uptime and timing your stuff. Yes it is annoying and harder then range but your output if your good is higher =P

Anyone get a pet or a mount from this raid? HM raids usually have one or the other. We didnt get any so thought i would check here =D

Thanks all. Looking forward to competeing in new content now that we have our raid team more set. Time to mess around with 16 mans =D

7/7 HM S & V http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-26_00_38_37_649597_zps374343a0.jpg

Ashen Order 6/7 HM S&V http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-23_23_16_32_828579_zps27e1a8be.jpg http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-23_23_00_22_297068_zps7145605c.jpg

4/7 last night. http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-22_21_35_51_327320_zps0f6ce45c.jpg http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-22_22_42_47_094008_zps26ec9aa0.jpg People leaving for family emergancies blows

2/7 HM S and V last night http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-21_23_27_31_646244_zps12236119.jpg Also 16m SM golden fury.

The only way i agree with this statement is because operator in TFB is buggy and glitchy as all get out. The mechanic's of the fight dont work half the time. Other then that TFB was easier then HM EC release.

Ashen Order Server Begeren Colony Got the first boss down on HM S&V Apologies for screen shots not having the clock i found this thread today and was only worried about server posts T_T 11:29 pm CDT soooo 4:29 am april 17th UTC http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-19_12_57_42_389146_zps470210ad.jpg

AO 4/5 HM TFB http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-18_23_40_57_867862_zps6e4197bb.jpg http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-18_23_10_14_653436_zps26da5fc0.jpg

1/7 HM S & V http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-16_23_27_05_894277_zps0c3da9e1.jpg

AO finished S and V and TFB stories tonight. =D http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s514/nateon666/Screenshot_2013-04-15_21_59_41_994550_zpsdc12cb11.jpg for s and v didnt bother with a screenie of tfb lol

just list them for new content. Guilds are supposed to fight for server firsts thats what a raiding community is?

There is a NiM of it.

AO has downed Lucky WB and SM GoldenFury. like 7pm HM tfb 2/5 tonight. 1030pm 4/7 SM S and V midnight Central times

Wrath proc happens alot less on the PTS idk if i was just unlucky or not. But i was barely able to get it when DM and CD got of cooldown. In 2.0 there are no direct changes to shock minus it being moved into the other tree which is makes it hard to get 3 points in actually. I only do PVE so nothing is regarding pvp stuff.

Shock right now with the 3 points into it is a dps gain over force lighting. however the force cost makes it blow. LS shouldnt even be on your bar imo. The wrath proc comes up alot less in 2.0 so using it on LS would be a huge loss over Crushing Darkness. In 2.0 with the 3 points in shock itll be amazing because of dps gain and force is a non issue. I never ever got below 90& force and i was clipping dots on purpose its kinda sad what they did to our management. They also gave another buff to force lighting where it regens even more force since i was last on the PTS. currently i use shock when i am moving or during end of a phase like when i know a shield is coming up and ill have downtime.