The second one. You're being judgemental and mean. I'm defending someone.

What is more sad? The people that spend their time doing that?... Or the people that spend there time making fun of the people who spend their time doing that?. .... Grow up. Don't judge people.

I'm with the OP I really want to like this game, and I'll hold out a bit longer at least... but lack of content (that is challenging... the amount was there... but you can faceroll it)...and bugs (ability delay, Ops bugs..etc) are too much for me I think I hope it gets better. I fear it will take too long... And my friends will leave... then I'll be alone... It's not looking good .

Its an exploit to use my abilities to play the game? lol... no.

...like I said.. don't take teh balloon

Just so everyone knows... You do NOT need to take the balloon to get either of the datacrons. All you need is an Iquisitor or a Sith Juggernaut (jugg > inquis... easier to aim) Go to the side the red datacron is on and move down to the corner that is closer to the ground.. now move diagonally away from the crawler. Someting like the following ___________ | | | | | | | x |__________ . You wanna be around where teh dot is. (except more to the left... it doesnt let me indent here. "X" is the 'lowest' corner of the crawler, closest to the ground Then duel your pal and have him force push you on the crawler... much easier if he does so while you jump i nmid air.. only liike about 3 or 4 pushes to get it... pretty easy. So yea.. dont wait 40ish minutes for this.. just run out there and get it...lol.

You must be trolling... answer this question... You say: "You're trying to single one person out too much. It doesn't matter if one or two people are underperforming, as long as the bosses are dying" .... as long as the bosses are dying... WHAT IF THEY ARE NOT???????? You keep saying that, and refuse to answer the counter question. if its hitting an enrage timer.. then yes, you need a dmg meter to solve it. period.

Getting over one's self is impossible... In order to be physically over one's self, one must de-tatch from one... Which is impossible. Hence, getting over one's self is actually impossible. I played for 7 (if you want to include closed beta)... What is your point? You think that makes your point stronger?... Yes, ragers are ragers, regardless of the system implemented in the game. Therefor you cannot logically blame the system in the game. They would rage anyway, and do so now in swtor.... The fact that you tried to argue that actually makes me question the truthfullness of your "I played wow for 6 years comment" And one more time..... what. if. the. boss. doesnt. die?

That is correct. I'll comment more about this below... Thanks for helpinmg to prove my point btw. Why worry?... Because what if you are not getting the desired result?... What if you are wiping?..... Then what? Tough luck? no. wrong. You look at the data, find the issues, and fix them. You can call it whatever you like... Its how the top progression guilds raid. This is just wrong. If the boss isn't dieing, it very well may be 1 or 2 or 3 people causing it. After all SOMETHING has to cause it.. And it isnt an all-fail or non-fail situation. If you have a weak healer and people keep dieing... there is NO WAY to figure out who the weak healer is. And also, it might not even be the healer.. some dps might be just taking too much dmg for whatever reason... no combat logs doesn't let us see what is hurting us or killing us. second by second. If we are hitting an enrage timer, it may very well be 1 or 2 of our dps is just awful... and we have no way of knowing who.. so now no one gets to kill the boss.... Does that sounds like fun to you? ok, which one? or do you assign healers? what if the assigned healers die? how did they die? did they die because they were bad?.. or did someone else explode near them to kill them? did they die because the way they heal is bad? or because they just dont have the gear? If this is your viewpoint... You havent raided much... This just is not the case.. some bosses dmg done to dps is just unavoidable and needs to be healed... so did the dps die to that? (making it the healers fault?) or did they die to somethnig dumb? Yes. it does. period. See above. Everything was cleared in less than a month.. a couple weeks in fact. It doesn't get any easier.... And thanks again for proving my point... we could actually measure it... if we had combat logs/ meters. There is my point, in all its existence glory.

Doesn't happen. The run isnt a failure.. the person might get a talking to, but thats it... If you need to make up stuff to argue your point... Perhaps it is time to reconsider your point... Also doesn't happen... See above comment Content is... very... easy...

No they are not there all for someone like me... but they are here for themselves and EVERYONE ELSE in the raid... how is ti fair they dont pull there weight if they can? First underlined part... EXACTLY...what if I am the pone putting it together and I want people to have the best gear/spec they can, and with the correct rotations... the problem is we dont even know what those are because we cannot test. So as you said.. If I'm MAKING the group for ME... that is what I want. To the bolded, italicized part... The point is what if those things are not happening... what if the boss is not dieing. How can you know who or what the cause is besides "well i guess we cant do this".. if we had a combat log / dmg meter, you can then replace the fail with a good player.. and kill it... which is better for all IMO (yes even the guy that got replaced, because now he/she knows they need a better spec ro more gear, etc.) You just don't get it. Right now whena group fails for whatever reason, tanks dieing, enrage timers... We cannot solve it because we only know what caused us to whipe, but not where the problem lies.... And the fact that the content is so easy is blinding so many players making them think a meter is not needed because hey... its dieing right? So when/if they release actual raid content... then what?......

Only because PvE encounters is this game are currently at a joke level of difficulty.

Arena failed? says who?

They fix Revan bug?

Im shocked you left out Vael. 2nd boss BWL.. Wow web stats shows it apparently *still* has the most kills than anny other boss.

No!... leave one up and more won't spawn...lololol I only managed an 11k

lol... I clicked forums... then class forums... Jedi knight and Sith warrior are both top left and top right of the page... Here are the title of the two shown threads: "Marauders are OP, I am Serious." "Concensus: Are Sentinals underpowered." ROFL

UN wait for it... BE wait for it... LIEV wait for it.... A wait for it.... BLE

Except the release new FP's and ops without fixing all the bugs in current FP's and Ops... lul wut.

Honest to god... Gabe.. this is for you, cuz I know you're responsible for stuff like this. If you want to save your game from death... Hire me today.

Just tweeted to Mr. Reid a question about this a few seconds ago... He should be back today after long weekend. Cross your fingers we get a response. Even just clarifying if it s abug or not I'd be happy with at this point.

Dumbest thread I've ever seen OP... Not a personal attack... but the math is simple. For Flashpoints: 1 tank, 1 healer, 2 dps. 25% tank, 25% heals, 50% dps. For Ops: 1 tank, 2-3 heals, 4-5 dps. 12.5% tank, 25% heals, 62.5% dps. The majority of SKILLED players want to raid, and build guild and freind comps off of that. That leaves heals and dps over populated for flashpoints. Now if for flashpoints its balanced.... that leaves tanks over populated for Operations. Fail design is fail.

How is this hate on jedi?... Sith need to get this one too for teh GGG matrix cube.... Took me 7 hours.

When did I say they were second class?... Right... I didn't If you feel the need to put words intp people's mouths in order to argue against them... Perhaps your arguments are flawed.

lol.. what about people that dont raid?... they can still do as they please... And there is always SOME choice, even in dps builds... Way to over exaggerate tho.