He alredy did that customer serveice wont care I have seen it they kept sending silly anwers also we did tried everthing in forums. Not just this guy I saw regular Swtor installation problems everyday. I didnt count but its kinda like half of the people who wants to play cannot make it work. I think I say like 30-40 people in two weeks and it keeps going and if the situation is like this in community surely it must similiar around the world. Not my problem but its Dev's problem this game needs an offline launcher... Also why people have to go trought all this mess cant dev's make a proper working setup and publish it so people can download it Launcher is terrible and fails doesnt matter with regular install or bitraider procsess.

PLEASE DO NOT MOVE MY THREAD I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE IT ! I am the Owner of a small size Star Wars facebok group and everyday I am posting some stuff about Swtor. Folks in the group want to play the game they are hardcore SW fans but guess what THEY CANT MAKE IT WORK ! Every day every GOD DAMM DAY I am seeing posts about Launcher issues and deleting bitrader wont solve problems. I even see a fan (which send me a private messeage) saying me that he did everything posted on forums and still cannot make the work and this guy worked for a A WHOLE MONTH also send a ticket as well but you guys only make him do silly windows updates, flush dns etc etc none of it works in a computer which he plays games regulery with no problem. The Launcher issues are too much it was always been like this but its worse than you can imagine you cannot go on like this its like %50 of the Folks who want to play the game cannot even make it work. Offline setup and big installer is only solution DEVELOPERS MUST adress this issue. If you guys cannot make it work then release torrent (core files) its an online game anyway just let people to download and hit the play button they gonna need login anyway you wont lose anything.. Look guys I love this game this is a master piece story dynamics are all great. When I post gameplay videos or tell stories people love it then they cant make it work. Its not me getting effected with this issues I already coied whole game to my drive and use it but if you dont fix it soon you will have a REALLY HARD TIME finding new players...

so any news ?

There was only one time I really really hated myself doing something in game but it was not in swotor it was in GTA 5 and I didnt had a choice cause it was a forced action.The torture mission in that game was terrible.I dont know if you know it but in that mission you gotta click some stuff and really torture a innocent guy. God I really really hated that scene and that made me not play the game for two days afterwards caused me to stop playing GTA 5 story totaly. So after seeing this even the greatest evil in swotor looks like a pretty much normal thing for me and although beign a evil seems like a good way to play swotor going that far like they did in GTA 5 is too much for my hearth. For those who played that mission will understand what I meant and my friend if you feel bad about killing that father then never play GTA 5 cause that torture mission can make you commit suicide its that terrible : S

If you are playing as a Bouty Hunter you gotta kill guys. All that nonsense that Mako talks about having an honor is kinda stupid since we paid to kill people. Like it or not Bounty Hunters are paid killers. So if you choose to play with a toon like this why feel sad about killing someone just tag along. Same think applies for lightsided toons too I usually go for the lightside options.I dont know about you but I do what that toon is expected to do in game. If he is jedi knight surely helps the kid.If he is bounty hunter puts a bullet in his fathers head.

Oke so its either you have problems or I have cause I didnt hesited to kill. Because of a friend of mine I did played the same quest again with a friend and guess what we killed him again. The reason I did this cause I was playing as a bounty hunter and like most Bounty Hunters he values money above all else. And yes he cries father father after all but why be sad and delete toon for it men come on : D About the RL stuff I think Dark Side characters are a great way to push off some stress from our shoulders also except one class I do find rep classes kidna boring you know.

What I mean is having him as a part of story in Kotfe like it was in first chapters before it sacrificed itself to save us. I dont care having him as a companion near me in other places I do have plenty companions. He was a funny character and my favorite especially that bug chasing scene of him was awesome and his comments about "meat bags"are hilarious. He gotta come back as a part of story in Kotfe. I am subbed to this game for three months and my HK-55 is died in kotfe chapters now he is only avalible as a companion from legendary screen not as a part of the story. Do you guys have him part of the story can you intereact with him ?

Well you got it wrong and then you get mad about it and answered this way : D I didnt said the females I create were ugly I said male companions were ugly. I said that female companions are many and mostly beatiful but male companions are few and mostly not good looking.So my post was totaly supporting you but you saw it from the direct opposite view : D I didnt created ugly toons actually both of them is pretty beatiful one's people tend to propose marrige to them when I enter flashpoints especially to my jedi consular dont know why they love her that much I swear it happened : D Also having HK-55 as a companion is not what I meant I mean having him in kotfe story so I can have those funny converstations again. Edit: Correction in first sentence.

No need to choke random people only need to choke my boos thats what I dream of !

HK-55 was my favorite Kotfe companion I am really sad that he is dead. He was soo funny and intresthing to talk with and also very loyal to its master. I do know that many people think like me too cause forum is full of peple who hate to see him dead. Cant you guys somehow revive him kill Aric Jorgan,Kaliyo,Lana,Theron or whoever you want I dont give a damm give us our funny droid please and please do make some search on forum its really full of posts posts who express same thoughts with this one.

Also I do have two female toons in game for jedi consular and sith iinquisitor. While I am playing with them I avoid all Romance options cause they are kinda ugly you know I think that they dont deserve a sith lord or a jedi master. In other classes you have folks are Aric Jorgan etc etc so overall male romance options for female players are not that good. I dont know what you feel about it but İf I was a girl I will definetly stay away from the male companions in game cause only few of them is charming enough. Of course as a male this is what I think and female players can have diffrent opinions and they can be right about it cause after all beign female is something they know and I dont : D But as far as I can see male players has better female companions to romance with much intresthing and good looking like Elara Dorne,Kira Carsen or the finest among them Jeesa Wilsaam.

Maybe its about game ratings you know normal romance options dont push that ratings too much but same sex relations in game can make game ratings go high which is maybe bioware is concered of.After all this is an mmo and one of its target audience is children so maybe they dont want to go over the line ? I mean todays children already know everything so I dont think that rating stuff works anyway but some people take it seriously. But as a person who always looks for equality same sex relations can be included in game if there is a demand for it I dont mind.

ahahahahahahahaha dude you made me fell of my chair About same sex romance I will never go for it I dont like it but I also have no objections to that but PLS PLS NO Vette in kotfe guys pls ! Oke she is funny,she is kinda charming and she has his own personality but she is not a suitable fit for dark side players. While I was playing as Sith Warrior I remember stucking between Vette and Jeesaa then in the converstations I saw an option which says "I deserve you both " I thought that it was funny I selected it. Vette refused it immedietly.Oke that is understandable but after that she said one sentece and at that point I regret taking her shock collar off. She said something like "Oke you can take and have fun with your Aldreaan Trash" With this she meant Jeesa Willsam who is from Aldreaan. I was like hold on you slave who the hell you think you are that you are talking like this I mean the person you trash talk is a sith and can chop you into pieces in a blink of an eye plus she is someone I have romance with so how the hell you can talk like that. So thats when I hated Vette and since then I want looking for an opportunity to punish her for her behavior I hope I never see her in game ever again.

Not a personal problem much more like dark side related problem which also see support in this thread. Also why see it in wrong way its a good thing for company to listen its customers or at least wants to hear its suggestions. There is nothing wrong with it.

Arrogance ?

You guys are 100% right I mean in real life we are much more like jedi knights and Dark side choices are soo funny. Also about the real life I really really wish that there is a way to put my RL boss into this game.Oh god that will be one lovely play of dark side gameplay I will probably crash the game and corrupt its files with my darkside choices aganist him : D Can sith spawn earthquakes,thunderstorms,volcanic explosions or any other massive disasters on top of one person pls I mean usual sith stuff wont be enough aganist him I need something much powerful : D Just wishful thinking : D

ahahaha I almost fell from chair when I read your post no worries pal I havent burned anyone in real life : D I mean not yet : D

So the question is simple why the hell I am always finding myself selecting dark side options. I mean in real life I am a decent person not a sycopat. I have a decent job great family good friends and a great girlfriend I intent to marry in upcoming years so generally I am a good person. But in game I cannot stop myself. I completed all 8 classes and in rep side I really pushed for lightside and sort of managed it with consular but that was hard for me. While playing as a jedi selecting a dark side option was always easy for me and now I tried to play the game as a lightside inquisitor and I stopped it before reaching Dormund Kaas.I cant act good in this game : D I remember playing Mass Effect and in that game I always picked good options and my Commander Shepard was really a good person but in swotor which has many similarites to that game I cant stop being evil : D Why guys just why : D Why the hell is Dark Side is charming this much is it because of the red color of my lightsaber or beign able to choke the person in front of you when you dont like their attitude : D Do you guys feel the same way or is this a problem only I experience : D

Oke I got offical response from bioware to my in game complaints ticket and they told me to open up a thread in suggestions box and said that devs checks threads there. Here is my thread there which pretty much sums up everything so if you guys think like me now is the time to show your support. After all I want this stuff not to enjoy it by myself but for the sake of all darkside players. Here is the thread I await your support asap ! http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8873611#post8873611

Oke so after sending a suggestion in game I received a message from bioware which was telling me to come and write my complaints here so here is my suggesitions to improve gameplay. Actually I dont even need to tell it again cause this thread below sums it up quite well and the most important thing is I am not alone cause there is fundamental problem with kotfe expansions and it needs a fix asap. First check these thread please http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=876885 My Compaints and Sugesstions Although the thread above explains everything I will tell it again just to make sure that you developers hear us out clearly. The problems about kotfe are many and first of them is Aric Jorgan that idiotic cat head who made me hate himself while playing as lightside trooper and now he made a legendary player like me me to quit the game. His attitude aganist me while playing republic trooper was idiotic and he had no respect for chain of command but since that I had other companions I just ignored him all over the story even skip his converstations. But now while playing as Dark Sith Lord its impossible to play with him. I mean I played the last chapter like 15 minutes and he pissed me soo much that I quit the game. He refuses every god damm dark side choice I made and talks like "my mission my rules" what the hell is this.I mean who the hell you are anyway I am a sith lord and a very powerful one who scares even the emperor and you trash talk me what nonesense. Also why he forced me to save civilians anyway I dont care about the people of Zakuul innocent or soldier alike. They burned my beloved emire and smashed it into pieces while leaving Korriban in ruins and they keep killing millions.For me they gotta burn all planet must burn because I am a true sith and true sith lords never forget and never forgive. I also felt like same with some other companions as well (like koth for ex) I mean Lana keeps telling me that I am their leader and I hold them together but I dont feel like a leader while everyone is trash talking me and forcing me to do things in their way rather than my way. I dont feel like I am a leader in kotfe I feel like just a puppet in a story which has stupid companions who pushes me to do things in their way. This kotfe story can be played greatly as a lighside character but it was immposible to play it with a sith lord. You guys promised us to play "Our own personal Star Wars saga" so where is this all I see is "My own pathetic story" you guys need to fix this. My Suggestions 1.Dont push us to play the story with idiotic companions like aric jorgan ever again.Also enough of this alien nonesense he and kaliyo both ugly as hell where the hell is human companions. 2.Let us make our own desicions and never let compainions to choose whats gonna happen we are the one's who should choose. 3.Give us true sith companions who thinks like us and obeys us until the very end like Jeesa Willams.But dont give them as side companion like Captain price they deserve to be in story. 4.Dont let companions disrescpect us like they did until now and if they do give us immedite chance to punish or even execute them. 5.Read the forum post above and see what other people think about this issue. 6.Never ever kill great companions like Darth Marr or HK-55 what the hell is wrong with you ! Bring them back asap Darth Marr was a great sith lord a great leader and HK-55 was my favorite companion he was soo fuuny let me build rebuild him I want him. 7.Sith,jedi or Trooper whoever we are we were always feared or respected in story. We feel it in conversations including 3rd person npc's like planet missions etc. so make us feel the same way while we playing kotfe. 8.Give us a chance to enter our ship again (gravestone) and travel the galaxy with it I really loved that ship but I cant even enter it I want to enter my ship talk with companions and possibly interact with some new stuff in it. 9.Lastly never ever force us to threat well to Zakuul or anyone releated to it.I mean sith lords do not give a damm about even their own civilians why whould I am forced to save pathetic Zakuul civies anyway I want to burn that planet down or throw it into a black hole and actually every sith player pretty much want the same stuff. So to sum up let us play kotfe like we played the story.You guys write the story but let us make the desicions and since that there is only one type of story at least let us feel like its our story. I want to play as a true sith Lord not a crappy figure head who is bounced from one place to another and disrecpected even a human by Koth! In reality a sith lord would torture him publicly to make an example of him. Lastly again GIVE US JEESA WILLAMS the only true sith companion in game who really acted like sith and obeyed us until the very end plus loved us not like a stupid girl but as a serious sith female would do.

I dont think is there any better way to express my thoughts totaly I agree with you my friend you sum it up quite well. Except one part which is that I can really do without Aric for me he is useless.He is just one of the other useless idiotic companions who trash talks me (koth) just gimme my enemies I can torn them apart non stop for hours and days. And if you gonna be in my alliance then stay do things my way like my companions did story in (jeesa,aric and even Quinn) or stay away ! This is what we are we are Sith we were the sons of Korriban and we are very agnry ! So bioware write the story make the expansions but stop making us rolled over from one place to another and treated like crap just give us the control of our destiny.

So I will have a chance to kill him in next chapter eh oke then I will continue playing and send kaliyo in the mission when the time comes. Nice Exactly my thoughts I am the Outlander the Emperor killer and most importantly I am a sith and I should be respected and there should be no way for a crappy soldier of the repuplic to talk to me like "My mission my orders" I mean who the hell are you anyway. I mean bioware can put those kind of converstations in game of course why push me to follow it there should be a way to avoid all this nonesense or choke him to death. Same thing applies for Koth as well I mean the way he talk at me was wrong from all the beginning. Lana always talking that I am their leader and I keep them together but I never feel like I am in charge of anything more like I am dragged from one place to another all time. In story it was not like that I was respected by the folks around me even when I was a apprentice now I am a Darth and these idiots are trash talking me thats nonesense ! If I play kotfe with a jedi knight or a lightsided character these are all normal stuff but I want my so called "Personal Star Wars Saga" to be brutal and punishing for the Zakuul and helping their civilians is the last thing I do no matter they are innocent or not. I urgently call everyone out there who share my opinions to act for this.Write your complaints in game from report section cause bioware is not reading what we wrote on forums but they are reading what we wrote there.

No it did and now he wants revenge. Also you guys still didnt told me how to get rid of that cat face which mission I suppose to send him or not suppose to send him come on guys I really stopped this game and will not play until I know that he will be dead

Exaclty my thoughts Here is my comments about that idiot Koth again in spoilers just in case. Also dont get me wrong I am not a maniac or psycopat in real life.In game I have angel jedi and evil sith toons but for some reason I love my sith warrior so much and I choose to enter Kotfe with it.I like him this much because whenever he pisses off he always chopped some heads and in most of his converstations he talked funny even aganist his master Darth Fatty : D

Here is your answer Also fear of a common enemy a strong leadership can give some results ! Although I am charmed by the idea of "Maybe one day I will become the eternal emperor?" I think I will still choose to rebuild sith empire and destroy that goddamm planet zakuul if its given a chance. After all I am a son of Korriban and destruction of my planet must be avanged : D