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  1. With so many threads complaining about stunlocking I wonder if the game should be changed to accommodate the new players who can not handle CC?

     

    I know what you will say, if they are being stun-locked, why can't they stun-lock back?

    This seems like a great counter argument.

    It also seems that if a team is concentrating on stun-locking one guy then he should be getting healed.

    It also seems like of a team is concentrating on one guy the rest of the team should have the other team outnumbered.

     

    Or are, the people complaining about getting stun-locked and killed, the victim of just one lone player.

     

    It seems to me that the people being stun locked are not good players. Should we ignore the less talented player? Is that fair?

     

    OR they are people who can not deal with being cc'ed.

    PvP without CC would be boring.

     

    I don't know what these people want. It seems like the complainers dominate the forums.

     

    These people are probably the quitters too.

  2. Not at all. Just someone who is trying to save this already dying game. Face is this game IS dying a slow and painful death and it has to do alot with no having a no penalty system.

     

    Do you really think the quitter cares about people cancelling because of quitters?

    The quitter only cares about himself, that's why he is a quitter, so he thinks a penalty (which this thread is not about) is bad because it will get him to quit. He could care less about his quitting causing others to quit.

     

    Quitters quit, it's what they do.

     

    The problem is......this game is full of sabre-wielding apes who do nothing but tunnel vision and think it's "skill". its not even skilled unless its an 8v8 ranked premade. /yawn

     

    Thanks, will add that to the list of why quitters quit along with the 4,951 other reasons you guys came up with.

  3. Essentially:

     

    One guy says he will quit because his team doesn't go after the marked healer.

    Another guy says he quits because he gets marked and killed by premades.

    One guy quits because people don't follow his directions and another quits because the directions are stupid.

     

    All the people with the three page posts on why they quit and how bad their teams are, are just quitters.

     

    Quitters quit, it's what they do, they make fun of the people who stick it out.

    Look at this thread for reference. These people write elaborate tales of WarZones gone bad, do you think that was the only time they quit? I doubt it. They lose they quit. This is why winning teams have 8-9 players and losing teams have 10-17 players every WZ.

     

    Quitters quit

     

    Yea yea yea, we know you all have different levels of what will make you quit. In the end you are all quitters. You quit bad WZ's and make someone else play in it.

  4. So, while an average player (like me) encounters this problem about 1 out of 10 games, and considering people replacing the quitters, an average player does not see this as much of a problem as you do. That brings up the next question. I think you see this a lot, and in your experiences, you are the common denominator. So, if you see people quitting the WZ very, VERY often, enough to QQ pages long in the forums, I think the problem is, people don't want to play with you.

     

    So, why don't you look at it from this perspective and try to improve yourself, instead of trying to force people to play with you?.

     

    I think this post is full of win.

     

    The people who post pro-quitter comments always complain about" bads," hey, maybe it's them. Maybe they are in favor of quitting because they are the common denominator of the bad matches that causes them to quit.

    OK now I am full of win.

     

    And all I want is to not see the quitters. My hope was that they would get their own queue with other quitters, I do not want them to stay in a WZ and cry, we have those guys. I am trying to get them to try and stop giving up.

     

    If you believe he sees quitters in 1 out of 10 matches that is laughable. Look at your next few WZ's and count the people on the scoreboard, the losing team averages about 3 more players than the winners apart from 0,0,0,0 players.

  5. Yes. That was wrong of you according to richard. You were selfish for not letting the other team farm you like there was no tomorrow so they could maximize their medal/comm/valor gain. How dare you cheat the opposition out of being able to lol at your whole team and run through you like Schillinger did Beacher in OZ.

     

    Quitters love this excuse. They use it to get others to sit at a turret and sulk.

  6. ok i just quit a WZ about 5secs ago ........(Delete quitter complaint about team).....now was that wrong of me?

     

    Yes quitter, now someone hasto take your spot because you only play on good groups and do not understand what a random queue is. There may have been guys trying on your team as well. As a quitter you generally cant claim knowledge of the game as you only matches with no challenge, The three guys defender farming are another version of the quitter.

     

    The guy who leaves is virtually the same as the defenderr farme. You both cause your teamates to lose. You ruined the match for the guys trying just as the the three farming defender medals ruined it for you.

  7. Can I see a video or you streaming? I'm placing bets on whether he clicks and keyboard turns.

    Even the opposing faction doesn't wanna play in the warzones he's in xD

     

    This is an interesting item to note about the depravity of the quitter.

     

    You see, the "normal player" expects to win 50% of his matches and if he is good, go above that percentage, and if he is bad he will go below it.

    So a normal person knows that if you are average, 50% of your matches will have you on the losing end. That means that you will see the quitter epidemic. If you are elite and win 80% you will see the quitter epidemic. (Not to mention you can see it in your wins all the time as well)

     

    The quitter is so depraved because of his quitting he forgets normal, good, great and elite players lose. You see, the quitter solved losing with his -blame team then quit- solution. So when someone says that they see quitters, the quitter responds "you are bad and keyboard turn." "You must be bad if you see quitters. I rarely see quitters" (hahaha because you are quitting all the losing matches)

     

    It's kind of funny.

     

    The quitter is also very sad in terms of what he finds fun. He just wants to win and not lose. Losing makes him cry/quit. When I am in a Voidstar and we get one of those early plants, sometimes we can walk through to the datacore. Why? Because we are so good? No, because the other team is filled with quitters. I have been in hutball matches where we did the same play over and over and the other team couldn't pick it up b/c of the stream of quitters.

     

    These are not fun matches and I generally take mid and just pass the ball out no matter what class I am on. The team that gives up barely attacks in Voidstar and just tries to draw you out to them. I just stay by the door and barely get medals. I feel bad for teams that suffered through dealing with quitters.

     

    Now if a quitter was lucky enough to be on my team with other "normal" players he will think he is good. Whereas normal players look at the enemy scoreboard and know that when we see 15 opponents we just got stuck with the quitter epidemic on the other side.

     

    It's also something no one does publicly. In ranked no one quits and you can win 6-0 in ranked as well. They just cant blame team, so a quitter will say the class is OP. A quitter is unable to say "wow, that team was good or that team had a nice play"

  8. How do I know quitters are full of it?

     

    If you send them tells you will see they generally make up an excuse for quitting. The rare quitter who says his team was bad, if you press him he will show he is just a sore loser.

     

    Thank god for same faction WZ. There is nothing better then getting to play against the quitter in the next WZ. 5 Solo kills on the guy plus a victory is sweet. <-True Story

  9. Can you read? Maybe you can, but I don't think you do read. People who say why they leave WZ (or in your words, quit) is because of people not contributing to WZ or defender medal farming. Let me put this in bigger font so even you won't miss this one out:

    People who say why they leave WZ (or in your words, quit) is because of people not contributing to WZ such as defender medal farmers. There are also other reasons, like griefing, badmouthing... But you get the idea.

     

    I have been in groups with bad players, medal farmers, griefers and badmouthing, we all have, you quit I don't. You pass the bad group onto others, I dont. But you and the quitter will once again ignore this and just say "they're team is bad" It's like talking to robots, thats all quitters know how to say.

     

    Richard, now I am going to be brutally honest with you. I think you are a horrible player. There could be a number of ways you are horrible. Maybe you play so bad you get less than 50k in every category. Maybe you don't do objectives, or you don't care. Or maybe, you do play well, but you talk trash to your teammates. Do you call them idiots? Do you call them noobs? I am thinking maybe you do this. Or maybe, you don't follow ops chat, or the strategy of the game. Maybe you don't know how to play your role in each WZ.

    I don't know which one, maybe one of these reasons or maybe several or maybe you have all of these horrible traits.

     

    I am really good. No joke.

     

    Do I talk? Yes. I never call names or use caps. I will say people should stun, or not fill resolve or whatever but I never have arguments with people in WZ's, i mean never. I will send a whisper if someone is so clueless they seem to genuinely not know how to pass. I will use caps only if the team needs their attention like if they go the wrong way or dont know they have the ball.

     

    The only thing I ever call people is "quitter" if they start farming before a game is over. These people hate me and put me on ignore. Especially the repeat offenders. I keep a list. I always afford them a chance to respond and take them at their word if they were booted or stuck in spawn.

     

    You say this because I despise quitting and you are a quitter.

     

    Do you know why I think that way? Because every week you bring up this WZ quitters issue like it is the worst possible thing you can ever see in this game. And you are pretty much alone in regards to this, meaning, there are people who agree with you, but no one is as buttthurt as you are about this. So, while an average player (like me) encounters this problem about 1 out of 10 games, and considering people replacing the quitters, an average player does not see this as much of a problem as you do.

     

    None of this addresses how wrong it is to quit on others, you are just trying to turn quitting around on the one who calls the quitters out, nor did I start this thread.

    Its Quitter mentality 101.

    -I lose i blame team and quit.

    -Someone calls me quitter, they are bad

     

    So, why don't you look at it from this perspective and try to improve yourself, instead of trying to force people to play with you?

     

    You think I want to play with quitters? I despise cowardice. I want them in a seperate queue. And not just on my side on the opposition side. On my server the Empire is weak. I started a character on that side and see the quitting is much worse there. This is why they lose. Quitting is a disease.

  10. If you want me out because I have quit games that people go afk in stealth or simply give up and sit on a node waiting for the timer to tick down while I'm the only one actually trying, I'm all for it. I'd say more but I have this feeling you're not the brightest crayon in the box.

     

    What are you talking about, this is what you said:

    "Even if there was a penalty for leaving, I would still quit the games I have left. It would solve nothing. I could be like others in games I have left that say screw this I'm going to sit in the endzone of huttball or in some obscure location of the map in stealth and do absolutely nothing because they can do that, cool huh?"

     

    I said if you do that you would be shown for what you are.

     

    Would I be surprised if the current quitters hide afk, no

    Would I be surpsrised if they defensive medal farm, no

    Quitters already do this stuff, this is why I despise playing with them and want them in a separate queue.

    They complain about everything under the sun and find ways to sulk and not compete. either quit or afk or defensive medal farm. I don't understand your point. If you are saying that you quit because of quitters then you are one of them. Now we have to deal with quitters justifying quitting because of others quitting. What more has to be done to show that quitting is the cancer of PvP. It spreads.

  11. But go ahead. Keep crying about people leaving. Pretty soon it will just be all the terrible players who deathmatch in the pit instead of trying to win Huttball who PvP anyways lol. Sorry. But I like to win and i like to play with people who want to try and win. Not run around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to play Darf Mall da Sif Lawd.

     

     

    There are two ways to win

    1) Be Good

    2) Quit losing matches until they put you with good players

     

    We just choose different avenues to win. I will admit that your quitting all losing matches probably gives you a better percentage though. Keep it up, your 100% win ratio proves how good you are.

  12. Pretty much spot on. If it came down to them making it an hour, two hours, 2 days? I would just do the ultimate quit there is.

     

    /cancel

     

    Works for me either way. Would love to see how their queue times hold up after people who think like me do just that lol.

     

    That is what would help the game. The quitters ruin PvP, if you all quit it would be fun for all and the new players wouldnt be scared off. You guys dominate the forums with your complaining about OP classes and premades and forceball etc. But you do not dominate the game. SO if we get rid of the bad apples it would be awesome.

     

    As you can see here I dont mind you people in your own queue but we dont want you infecting our PvP with your quitting or collecting defensive medals.

  13. guys, Ricky is trolling you all

     

    hes been saying this tired old stuff forever!

     

    Apparently he has a real problem with people quitting the Warzones hes in and is taking it personally (probably rightfully) so trying to create penalties to force people to play with him.

     

    Never saw anyone so wrong on a forum before. My dream is to never play with quitters and always play with people who try. Of course, as a pro-quitter, you are skilled in blaming others.

     

    this is probably very true. . .and very sad(the first part)

     

    and I agree with Kalfear, I dont care if there was an hour 'time out' penalty that prevented me from playing in a warzone again. I would still quit when I see the ridiculous stuff that some people do in a warzone

     

    So that is one hour normal players dont have to have a quitter in their matches. In the end that helps PvP. You think it means anything if you win 6-0 and then see the scoreboard show you played against 19 people. It just means the quitters ruined another game and I didn't win anything.

     

    bro, if i am leaving a match bro, it is already ruined bro

     

    just because you are too blind or tunnel visioned to see it, does not mean it is not yet bro

     

    Bro, if a quitter (like you) enters a match its tainted. Either we go up early and you think it's because of you or we go down early and you blame your team and quit.

  14. Quitters dominate these threads because they always complain.

     

    This class is OP

    That class is OP

    Everyone is hacking

    My team is bad

    Premades are too good

     

    Solution is quit quit quit quit

     

    We know you quitters

  15. Yes, now you're reaching for random obscure arguments because you cannot counter the fact that we realize we quit, and we gave the reasons we do. We know we're not the best. But we know we're better than almost everyone in the game we just left.

     

    If you can't admit (as a person who stays) that you lack one or more of the mechanics, awareness, and strategy needed to be successful at PvP, we're going to continue quitting on you.

     

    What the heck are you talking about? I have said the same thing that you quitters never answer. Its unfair to the players on your team who are not bad and it's unfair to the fill in. You say so let the fill ins quit and let the remaining good players quit. How am I supposed to respond to people who think every pvp match that isn't 1-1 should be a parade of quitters.

     

    You are also saying that the people who stay are bad if I understood this. "If you can't admit (as a person who stays) that you lack one or more of the mechanics, awareness, and strategy needed to be successful at PvP, we're going to continue quitting on you." I mean it's hard to argue with quitters who say everyone is bad even people who complain about quitters. That is your answer to everything. You're bad I quit, you dont like quitters so then you must be bad. etc etc

  16. Its been said before, if they join in progress they can choose to quit too. Many do. The ones who stay don't have to stay.

     

    Quitting is like a religion to you quitters. Everyone should just quit. You quitters should seriously thank those of us who keep PvP playable.

     

    Even if there was a penalty for leaving, I would still quit the games I have left. It would solve nothing.

     

    It would solve everything. You are the problem, we want you out. If you want to hide in a corner then you will be shown for what you are. I don't mind bad players, they usually learn to get good. I am never rude to them. The quitters are the cancer of PvP not the bad players. It is important to note that the quitter prefers hiding in a corner than playing a match that is virtually unwinnable. I like hutball as an example because when your team is getting clobbered because you playing a premade team and your team is new players, sometimes, 2 or 3 guys can put together a goal. So you lose 6-1. Its fun, you just scored a goal on a great team based on 2 or 3 guys work. Quitters will never get that and thats why they are generally bad players.

  17. Why because the debuff means nothing compared to doing a war zone with people that cant even focus a healer let alone Pvp.

     

    Quitter excuse number 1, blame team. There was probably two healers on this team and this guy did not realize they were focusing the other one. OR there were people capping they were stopping. Quitters quit too much to understand how to deal with a good opposition.

  18. Quitting is the response of a person with a full-time job (8+ hours) and does not have a whole lot of time for incompetent players. Three wins takes 45 minutes. Six losses takes 1 hour 30 minutes. I don't have the time to invest 45 extra minutes because stupid players don't understand objectives or basic logic like realizing they are dedicating 6 players to kill 1 person on a single door in voidstar.

     

    So you don't have a lot of time, so you screw over someone else and make him fill in for you. And guess what, there are people better than you who probably would consider you bad. Should they quit on you? You are not the decider. It's a random queue, grow up and play it out. If you have an hour play an hour and lose some matches like a grown up.

  19. Your selective quoting is a big fail.

     

    Let me do some selective quoting from my post that you used.

    "I don't mind folks making mistakes due to inexperience. It is all part of getting better. Learning from those mistakes.

    Having said that, I take more than my fair share of PUG losses. I typically get 80+ comms in a loss anyway and it is in my best interest to get the dailys over with. "

    Sounds a lot different when certain points are conveniently left out. This is why you lose big credibility with me.

     

    Why would I quote the matches you stay in? All of us decent human beings do that all the time. I quoted the matches you quit on your team and make some poor guy take your spot in the group. Selfishness. You want a medal because sometimes you stay? You want me to believe you determine when all seven of your teammates deserve to have you quit?

     

    You quitters are delusional.

    I am pretty good at PvP. My first hutball match (SWToR was my first PvP) I had no idea what to do so I ran around killing people. The chat taught me to after the ball carriers so then I was a robot either killing people on our ball carrier or killing their ball carrier. I don't think I scored a goal in my first 20 matches. Then slowly you pick up the nuances of the game and learn resolve use, the value of CC, class tricks, opposing class tricks, the importance of mid and getting to mid 1st etc.

     

    This guy expects me to believe he can determine who is bad and deserves his quitting and who is new. Sorry, dont buy it. You can determine 1 or 2 or even 3 but when you have three bad players on your team it usually makes the rest of the solo queue look bad.

  20. No quitter addresses the other people he quits on or the the guy who fills in for him.

    So far one guy did and his response was he doesn't care about others. That guy is not his responsibility.

    Quitters are selfish. They have thousands of stories baout bad teams like that does not happen to everyone.

    Quitters are not bright so they expect us to believe that all 7 teammates are bad. Lol

     

    The good player deals with it and usually becomes better. ( I remember one game where me and one guy were defending a turret vs 4 as the rest of our team ignored us and went for the three cap, we did it for about 3 speeder trips each before we overcome) The bad players quit.

  21. I have no moral obligations to the guy, who fill in the spot - everyone, who's solo queuing has such risk. Besides, let's put blame on those who deserve it - it's not me who will be jerk to the guy who fill the spot, but the same baddies continue to do whatever they do in WZ.

     

    None, no obligation whatsoever to other players in an MMO, according to you, why not quit every match you arent enjoying.

     

    I enjoy winning more than losing but i don't quit because I don't think its fair to others. According to you, if I hate losing I should be able to quit those matches? Yes or No? Yes or No? If no why shouldnt I quit every match I am losing, I have no obligation to others, they joined a random queue.

     

    The quitter rationale makes no sense, lol, its so obvious and they cant argue it

     

    (Hahahha you say all the people solo queuing have a risk of getting stuck filling in for you and your quitter friends but you accept no risk of a solo queue giving you a bad team, LOL)

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    Nothing you wrote there is reason or excuse for what the other posters pointed out yet once again you try to take the holier then thou attitude like your correct

     

    Clearly people think your wrong and are speaking up!

     

    I suspect why you fight the statements so much is you hear this stuff directed at you daily!

     

    Well not a complete wash,m least you didnt link to the loser thread you try to pass off as a solution.

    You know the one, the one EVERYONE HATED and disagreed with.

     

    You are such a quitter. You guys are hilarious. All you quitters say is it's his fault or his fault or because blah bblah. This is hard to understand so take a deep breath and think.

     

    If everyone quit for all these reasons every single match would be ruined. I admit you quitters can and have come up with 1000's of reasons to validate your quitting. That is the point, you have 1,0000's of reasons. There are always bad players or bad matchups or a WZ you dont like. The selfish quitter quits because he could care less about his team, Blaming the entire team is just not believable. Do you expect us to believe you quitters quit bc you quitters get stuck with 7 bad player????? hahaha

     

    If its "some" bad players then you are being unfair to the good players on your team and the poor guy who gets stuck filling in for you. No quitter ever mentions them. Because they are selfish and ignore them. So quitters go on and on with millions of various personal complaints and quit. Decent players play out the random queue they joined.

     

    It's the decent player who comes to forum once in awhile to post about quitting because he sees how silly and selfish it is. The pro-quitters flock to the forum and anonymously bash made up teams to justify that they cant handle losing. The problem with the pro-quitters is that everyone who doesn't quit sees who you are and how deluded you are. We know you are more prevelant on the forum because you complain about OP classes and bad WZ's and complain and complain and complain. Mid-match you complain (pre quitting) how the opposition is unfair because it's all ops or all Sins or all Jedi or all healers lol. You quitters do that stuff all the time its so funny. It's a quitters deluded way of justifying quitting.

     

    I always send quitters tells and about 1 in 10 admit it. Most make up an excuse or ignore us. The few who admit it often show their true colors and when they speak their complaint show off how wrong they are.

  23. What I can't stand is the pseudo alpha leaders (that are obviously noobs) that lead half of the recruits into major mistakes. Those are the type that can't take friendly, diplomatic, experienced advice from a full WH/valor 90 veteran..

     

    Translation I have opinion A, he has opinion B, he is wrong I am right so I will quit on my team and let some other guy deal with it and let my team play short b/c I dont like one of my teammates.

     

    I promise you I will always leave a warzone with, so far, one name in it. But I will add more when the situation dictates and I will always immediately leave when I see that name. Why would you team up with someone worthy of an ignore?.

    Why? Because decent folks dont make their team possibly start with seven and if its so bad why are you better then the guy you make fill in for you?

     

    As for me, I never leave WZ if we're just loosing. But I always leave a WZ where most of the team doesn't know at all what they are doing. .....So tell me, why should I bother playing with such team?

     

    Because in a random queue you can get stuck with bads, undergeared and morons. Rarely is your entire team that way, you are screwing the beginers and the guys trying. You are being a total jerk to the guy who gets stuck filling in for you

     

    i will leave a warzone when:1) a loud mouth team player trash talks a team. I refuse to be verbally abused while trying to enjoy a game.

     

    Nice of you to screw over your team bc of one guy and the guy who fill sin for you

     

    i will leave a warzone when:

    2) i get constantly focused by an opposing player to the point it is griefing. (see wz griefing thread)

    How dare the opponents focus on a player. hahaha this is a new low for quitters

     

    i will leave a warzone when:3) players on my team are completely clueless to the wz objectives, even after i say something politely in ops chat, after i have given them the chance of explanation. If they continue to play with the same idiotic mentality i leave the wz, no matter what position we are at in the wz (we are most likely losing anyways).

    Wow, you disagree with what your teammates do? How dare they have a different strat, I like how you leave even if it works. I always voice my opinion as well, but if the other team decides to go with the other POV, i go along and if it works I will say I was wrong.

     

    I'm sorry, I'm not going to sit through a warzone so you can play like a 12 year old who doesn't know the meaning of objective based pvp.

     

    This happens to everyone. Sometimes I will have 3 guys chasing one guy no where near the action, I say something and continue to play. They usually listen. Quitting is a 3 year old response

     

    To them I say:

    YOUR GRIEVING ME by not playing as a team and playing towards the WAR ZONE OBJECTIVES

    YOUR GRIEVING ME by for the 1000000 th time being lured away from Void Star doors so you can get the extra 100 damage in your final tally (of course you could give a rats butt about the door being bombed while 2 of us on the other side fight off 5 or 6 opponents and our door doesn't get bombed)

    YOUR GRIEVING ME by not responding to inc calls because you want to play the hero and ninja east in Denova while YOUR TEAM MATES battle overwhelming odds and desperately try to hold west, all the while wondering when help will respond to your inc call. Trust me, no matter if you do or don't get East, NO ONE thinks of you as a hero for your selfish choice.

     

    Everyone has had bad players on the team. They are bad or dumb or begininers. I deal with them. The quitter is the worst, he forces someone else to take his spot and he always lumps his whole team in with the bad apples. To be honest, he is often just saying this because he is losing and has trouble understanding that sometimes the other team is better. Medal farmers hurt your team but they occupy the enemy and playing with 7 is much worse. So the quitter cant stand his bad teammates causing him to lose so he does the same thing to the rest of his team when he quits.

  24. In case any of you missed it, the overall reuse time on force cloak will be lowered. This was something I was campaigning for, for a long time. The ability can and should be used offensively in conjunction with Shadows Respite. The boon to force regeneration will be substantial.

     

    The force boon along with the defensive enhancement should make a significant difference in the classes viability.

  25. The quitters flood these forums, I wish the good players would speak up more. I have gotten really good at holding a turret solo when no one answers my "incoming" as a result of bad teams.

     

    Not to justify it but, generally when I am ignored it is because the other people are very close to capping another turret. If I hold them long enough we just swap. Is that the smart team play by them? No. We all know in most circumstances it's smarter to hold 2 then go for three. But if its a choice between getting better at interrupts, LOS, escape and stuns or quit and cry, i choose the former.

     

    I have never quit. Ever. Probably dc'ed once, and once i had that bug where i was dead in spawn. Quitting because my team is bad and making other people play on a bad team in my spot is extremely selfish in my book.

     

    None of the proud quitters ever mention the person who gets stuck filling in for them. Look at the hundreds of posts by pro-quitters, you will never see one acknowledgement of the poor guy who gets stuck taking the quitters spot.

     

    I am not in favor of penalties, the solution to the quitters can be found here, i want to get them to turn into productive community member.

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