Yes, I still try to keep my crit around 35% in PvE, but over a long duration power may outweigh it. Not really sure as I haven't done any extensive research on BiS PvE gear.

There are ALOT of different thoughts on what true BiS is right now. Most of the reason for posting lists like this is to start a proper discussion on what is what. If you gear up the way I listed you will be a beast. Are there 2 or 3 pieces that are debatable? Sure, that's why there are 6 pages to read through. Will I make any changes to my list? Probably not. My suggestion is to use what I posted and make up your own mind on what the others have posted.

I still have 3 of the 61 cunning mods. I have not yet replaced them with BiS. Work in progress.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=337892 is the most current thread and contains the most current BiS list for Concealment PvP.

Aim is for Bounty Hunters. They also use Tech abilities. Cunning = Agent Aim = Bounty Hunter Strength = Warrior Willpower = Inquisitor And accuracy is crap right now. Avoid it.

Well done sir And thanks for the cleanup. It is appreciated.

Sorry it took me so long to answer this, but here it goes. It isn't exactly the same. Wearing 4 piece Columi + Matrix Shard with the rest Champion means your Expertise is lower then 500. The goal is always to have Expertise at or slightly above 500. Once you have that covered you can do what you want with what it available to you until you are able to get BM/Rakata. My suggestion for those not yet Battlemaster is to follow these simple guidelines: Keep Expertise at or slightly above 500. Try to get your crit % at or slightly above 35% self buffed. Use 2 piece Columi Enforcer's only if it does not affect the above 2 conditions. Replace all Enhancements with Rank 22 or 24 Power/Surge. Minimize accuracy, but do not sacrifice Expertise to do so (this mainly refers to Ear and Implants.) All of the above can be done without using a single piece of Battlemaster or Rakata.

That's awesome. I'm glad we came to almost the same conclusion with our lists. Is the Warzone Expertise Adrenal better? With 502 expertise that adds about 75 for 15 seconds, which is just about 1% damage. I always assumed the Rakata power adrenal was better because it increases my tech bonus damage from ~746 to ~855. I also have the Plasma Burst Device relic which deals elemental damage unlike the Dark Energy which deals kinetic right? Dark Energy does more base damage but it's mitigated by armor where Plasma Burst is not. Do we know which of the 2 is better and if they're even worth using over Matrix Shard?

This has not been discussed nearly enough. There was one thread recently that started to get some good discussion going, but not as much as I'd like. I posted a pretty comprehensive BiS list in that thread, but since I have made changes I feel the need to make my own thread for more eyes to see. This is done purely off of gear stats, but the math of expertise over 500 vs. PvE gear has not been done. To clarify that means that Expertise feels a diminishing return once you stack over 500, and most of the PvP community has settled on not going much past that mark. Here is my current BiS list for Concealment Operatives in PvP: BiS Mod (to be replaced on ALL gear with a Mod slot): Advanced Artful Mod 25 - Pulled from Battlemaster Field Tech's Gloves, Battlemaster Field Tech's Headgear, Rakata Field Tech's Gloves, or Rakata Field Tech's Headgear. BiS Enhancement (to be replaced on ALL gear with an Enhancement slot): Advanced Adept Enhancement 25 - This is a random drop from Hard and Nightmare Mode Eternity Vault and Karagga's Palace bosses. Since it is very difficult to get, use Advanced Adept Enhancement 24 (pulled from Champion Enforcer's Gloves, Champion Enforcer's Headgear, Columi Enforcer's Gloves, or Columi Enforcer's Headgear. Head: Rakata Enforcer's Headgear* Chest: Battlemaster Enforcer's Jacket Hands: Rakata Enforcer's Gloves* Legs: Battlemaster Enforcer's Leggings Feet: Battlemaster Enforcer's Boots * 2 piece Rakata used for +15% Crit to Backstab set bonus, and to lower Expertise in favor of higher base stats. Main Hand Weapon: Scorekeeper Knife: Battlemaster Field Medic's Knife Ear: Battlemaster Enforcer's Device Implant 1: Battlemaster Field Medic's Enhancer* Implant 2: Battlemaster Field Medic's System* *Crit Implants used here because we want our crit to be right around 35% with our self buff. Sacrificing all of our crit for pure power has proved to be a hindrance to our burst and overall damage. Wrists: Battlemaster Field Medic's Bracers Waist: Battlemaster Enforcer's Belt* *Some people prefer the Champion Enforcer's Belt because of the power, but the crit is needed in this slot to keep us over 35%. Relic 1: Battlemaster Relic of Boundless Ages Relic 2: Matrix Cube M7-R3 Biochem: Rakata Skill Stim and Rakata Attack Adrenal Datacrons: Collect all Cunning and Endurance Datacrons. A great guide for Datacron hunting can be found here. Overall this provides 502 Expertise. I will add the rest of the stat calculations soon. So that's it folks, as far as I can tell the above list is currently BiS for Concealment Operatives in PvP. Hopefully this thread will generate some constructive discussion, and maybe even the math to back it up. And if it's not 100% BiS then lets hope we eventually figure out what is. My Operative's progress: All gear pieces collected. 1/6 BiS Enhancements collected (the other 5 are rank 24 from Champion/Columi.) 3/6 BiS Mods collected. Biochem complete. All Datacrons collected. My Current Stats (w/ Rakata Skill Stim and 5% crit self buff): Cunning: 1705 Endurance: 1339 Power: 511 (740.0 Bonus Damage) Critical Rating: 217 (35.47%) Surge Rating: 393 (77.34%) Expertise: 502 (10.22%) Relic + Adrenal: 936.7 Bonus Damage for 15 seconds More discussion on Concealment Operative PvP BiS can also be found at this sithwarrior.com thread. Sark (Sarcatic) posted a BiS list there almost identical to mine just a few days ago.

12.65% is actually as high as expertise can go (703 expertise) in full BM gear.

Glad I could help man. Thanks for testing it all out and confirming what I thought. I'm sticking with around 34-36% crit being better then 29-30% crit with pure power.

Power is a better stat point for point. The issue here is that since parsing is not in the game it's very difficult to determine if crit is better for our burst up to a certain point, or if power is ALWAYS better regardless of crit %.

Went from 400 power to 577 by switching to Champ Enforcer Ear and Belt and using BM Enforcer Implants instead of Field Medic. Did this based on the topic creators suggestions. Have not had the chance to test it yet, but will be tomorrow. Still just curious if it is a better choice to have that much power with only 30% crit. I have 4 rank 56 Adept Enhancements from Columi / Champion Gloves and one rank 58 Adept Enhancement from HM Jarg and Sorno. I still have to collect more Rank 58 Artful Mods from BM/Rakata Field Tech Helm/Gloves. Should have 3/5 by the end of the week. Gear right now: Champ Enforcer Ear BM Enforcer Implant x2 BM Field Medic Bracers BM Power Relic Matrix Cube M7-R3 (cunning, crit) BM Field Medic Rifle and Knife Champ Enforcer Belt BM Enforcer Chest, Gloves Champ Enforcer Legs Rakata Helm and Boots Edit: I am not running with the above gear setup anymore due to my thoughts on low crit rating. Please see my other post with my BiS list for what I am actually gearing for.

I don't know if this is 100% BiS, but this is what I am aiming for in the end. I'm almost there, just missing a couple of rank 58 Mods and Enhancements and BM Legs. Ear: Battlemaster Enforcer's Device Implant 1: Battlemaster Enforcer's Implant Implant 2: Battlemaster Field Medic's System Wrists: Battlemaster Field Medic's Bracers Relic 1: Battlemaster Relic of Boundless Ages Relic 2: Matrix Cube M7-R3 Head: Battlemaster Enforcer's Headgear Chest: Battlemaster Enforcer's Jacket Hands: Battlemaster Enforcer's Gloves Waste: Battlemaster Enforcer's Belt Legs: Battlemaster Enforcer's Leggings Feet: Battlemaster Enforcer's Boots Main Hand Weapon: Battlemaster Field Medic's Rifle Knife: Battlemaster Field Medic's Knife 2 Piece Rakata: Up to player preference (may be better overall, but I am not 100% sure) All MODS replaced with: Advanced Artful Mod 25 (Pulled from Battlemaster/Rakata Field Tech Helm/Gloves.) All ENHANCEMENTS replaced with: Advanced Adept Enhancement 25 (Use Advanced Adept Enhancement 24 from Champion/Columi Enforcer's Gloves as the 25 one is a random drop from bosses on HM and NM EV and KP. It is rare and hard to get.) Biochem: Rakata Skill Stim and Rakata Attack Adrenal Datacrons: Collect them all, no excuses. When you get the gear (including Datacrons and Biochem items) in this list you should have over 500 Power, over 35% crit (with self buff), around 350 Surge, and around 650 expertise (550 with 2 piece Rakata.) Also, combining your Adrenal and Relic will send your Tech Bonus Damage over 900 for 15 seconds. Take it for what it's worth, but that is my BiS until someone comes up with solid proof that there is something better. Edit: I may give 2 piece Rakata a shot since I have Helm and Boots currently. Would love to see a link to solid proof that PvE 2 piece set bonus is superior to BM (you lose 100 expertise.) Edit 2: Implants can be Enforcer or Field Medic. I don't have solid information on what crit % we want to be at. I have 34% with Enforcer and over 37% with Field Medic. I understand that power > all, but i usually try to stay above 35%. I don't think stacking power and having under 30% crit seems smart but I could be wrong. Edit 3: Some more info. With stacking all power minus the crit from Matrix Cube and BM Rifle I have just over 30% crit. I was using around 37% before. I will test it out later today and see if I notice anything better or worse. I understand power is a better stat but I can't help thinking that 7% less crit might be a bad thing since our burst relies on it. In the end I just don't know. If parsing was in the game this would all be so much easier. If I'm being a nub someone feel free to let me know. I would just love to see some facts on stacking all power and sitting at 30% or lower crit being better overall. Edit 4: Slight changes to my BiS list to include Rakata 2 piece as optional.

I do but I had to change my schedule. Check the main post for an update. I don't have the time to stream 12+ hours a day anymore, but will still be streaming Mon-Fri after 10am EST when I can. I will also stream raids on Sunday and Weds at 8pm EST when I can. I am in no way done with streaming, just have to do it a bit less.