Most people are incorrect about what add-ons did to WoW. It made the game tuning based around them. This in return made people use add-ons that normally wouldn't be necessary. They have nothing to do with someone being bad or not. I would be happy with SWTOR if they just implemented a customizable UI, Smuggler/Agent healing is so painful right now. I have no doubt people could have easily played without those add-ons in WoW, but combining (insert random % of people) that used them and the encounters being tuned around that percent it made it a necessity for raiding which is sad really. Comparing difficulty between raids in SWTOR and WoW is a laughable debate because of how polished WoW is and the fact add-ons are being deployed. I consider myself to be decent at both games, and can you imagine doing LK Heroic with the UI swtor has currently? The debate isn't casual vs hardcore, people will make an argument "well i need to see my dps/healing numbers" That is fine really, recount doesn't do anything that is game shattering, but all the others should take a back seat to a customizable UI.