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    KotFE is a test!

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    Posted · Edited by Elyons

    The way you state it is as if all the quotes you used are the only things said against the OP, saying that no arguments have been mae. Forgive me if that was not your intent, but you should re-read the thread to see the questions. Also, you state that our posts are an attempt to smear the OP? In the post you quoted me on, I was pointing out his backhanded comment, there was no smearing there as he did make a backhanded comment.

     

    Oh no, those were not all of the arguments . I simply took what I found from the last 4 pages. If I was to try to acquire every fallacy from this thread in a single post, my post would be longer than an entire page. There really is nothing to worry about. Unless someone has taken a professional writing course, writing and fallacies are difficult things to understand (I understood little of the logic in a paper before I took an EN-126 course.) I really don't blame the posters for the mistakes. There are few places left in the United States that REQUIRE students to take a professional writing class for an entire semester.

     

    Honestly, I'm being a Nazi when I take apart the posts. For the most part, they're good; but there are always mistakes. The reason I did this was to show that ALL of you are on the same playing field. I become tremendously annoyed when I read posts that insult another person's logic, yet, overall, everyone's logic is terrible. I simply want you all to understand that everyone here has some valid points. OP and opponents have GREAT reasons for why it could and couldn't happen. It's a stalemate because neither of you can prove that quality and quantity would or wouldn't be reduced. I hope that helps. By the way, you'll notice the post I quoted from you wasn't under the smears section. It was only under the red herring

    KotFE is a test!

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    Posted · Edited by Elyons

    Kurkina has a valid argument. I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware is planning on destroying their game by turning it into a single player bonanza. Sadly, group content in this game is not played by a VAST majority of people. I have several friends who have only run a flashpoint a handful of times. My point? There are many people who simply play this game for the story-arcs, the leveling experience, and the warzones. Grouping up with other players is both a chore and a hassle. Unless you run with friends, raids and flashpoints can be terrible. While I believe it's unlikely that Bioware would stop creating group content, I don't think the OP's point should be dismissed.

     

    Normally I'm a forum lurker; however, my game is updating and I'm bored. With that condition in mind, I would like to offer an insight into this long thread that I've spent the last 10 minutes scrolling through.

     

    First, I have no attachment to this game. I'm a nursing student at Pensacola Christian College, the top seventh nursing school in America. For eight months of the year, I don't touch MMO's. For the other four months, I only play when I'm not working one of my two jobs. Regardless, I do have time to play on weekends with friends. I give these credentials to show that I really would not care if this game died and began a slow decomposition akin to the organ liquidation that your organs experience after you die. Hopefully, those conditions will prove that I am not a biofan or a hater.

     

    Second, the amount of fallacies that the majority of the candidates in this thread use is incredible. A fallacy is an argument that a logical person would not accept. Popular fallacies include smears, post-hoc, bandwagon, misuse of authority, and red herring. Red herring is by far the most popular fallacy. The definition of red herring is any argument that is not related to the original subject. For example, "Why should I take an English class, I'm not going to be an English teacher." What does becoming an English teacher have to do with the fact that you need to have a liberal arts education? With that in mind, here are couple of the most recent red herrings from both the OP and contributors:

     

    Wow, never before have I seen such a backhanded comment. You insult our opinion, then go to say you respect it? MAKE UP YOUR MIND

     

    Hey, I want to see the actual fade to black scenes where the two are ripping each others' clothes off, tossing them on the floor, and having massive tonsil hockey sessions. This ain't gonna happen in this rated T for Teen game. So I suck it up and just go 'eh one day there won't be prudes who don't like this' but I keep playing cause I enjoy the game.

     

    Hell, if it were up to me, there would be new stories every single day. Good or bad, I'd do them all. But again, ain't gonna happen. I want my companions to do way more than they'll probably ever do even coming with the new expansion, but meh, I suck it up and keep playing cause I like the game. Hell, I HATE togruta as a species. I think they're fugly, but I bought the species unlock to support those who want it and want other species in the future. I do this to both support the game and support my fellow gamers.

     

    I mean, if someone doesn't want to wait or doesn't like something and you KNOW it's will never come or will never come fast enough, just go already!

     

    (This isn't pointed at the person I quoted, the rant I mean.)

     

    This is an insult? I did not INSULT anybody's opinion, I analyzed people's motivation as best I could, because I still don't understand why the lot of your are so passionately defending BW. Since in my mind none of you have presented any real counter arguments to what I have stated beyond the fact that you believe what BW says, I assume that your position is emotional at its core.
    All of these statements have nothing to do with the original argument: will bioware include group content in the future.

     

    Now, here are a couple smears (A smear is when one considers a person's poor character as proof against his argument.):

     

    Please take the tinfoil hate off your head and return to reality please.

     

    It's odd that you ask for logical arguments when you offer none yourself.

    You have absolutely nothing except your fears and assumptions. There is no logic there.

     

    These fallacies and holes-in-logic must be pointed out in order for everyone here to realize that NONE of you are good at arguing; you have no right to insult the OP's logic, and the OP has no right to insult yours.

     

    Finally, the OP does have good INITIAL LOGIC. While I believe it's unlikely that bioware would take such a risky step as becoming a full, story-driven MMO, the possibility of it is there. Bioware has been known to make rash, untested decisions in an effort to profit. SWTOR is an example of that rashness. Yes, he has a lack of proof; however, that is because he's using deductive reasoning, not inductive reasoning. Deductive reasoning attempts to find a solution using a stream of possibilities. Inductive reasoning attempts to find a solution using hard proof or examples. HE HAS LOGIC. No, there is no proof, but his "A=B and B=C so A must equal C" is a valid way of arguing. Granite, his later posts have just as many fallacies as everyone else. Regardless, the initial logic of the OP is good.

     

    In short, the OP is not an idiot, and the contributors are not idiots. Yes, it is unlikely that bioware would stop implementing group content; however, it is not unlikely that group content would be less frequent and less ground-breaking. If you listen more, everyone will think you're smarter.

    2nd Anniversary Rewards are underwhelming

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    Up on today's News page is the following:

     

    "We are excited to celebrate two years of Star Wars™: The Old Republic™! As our thanks to you, we’ll be rewarding all players with exclusive Scout Starfighter Paint Jobs and 25 stacks of faction-based fireworks on December 17, 2013."

     

    That's extremely underwhelming. Considering the constant balancing act between what to permit for free for F2P players and giving subs reasons to stay subbed, it seems like BW would be better served by having a veteran rewards program for subs as opposed to only have these periodic minor rewards for everyone, regardless of length of time played. CoH had a pretty good veteran rewards program which had various benefits at every 3 months of sub time that got better and better the longer you subbed. I realize that this is just a reward for the anniversary of the game and not only for subs or based on length of time subbing, but it just highlights that some people have been subbing for 2 years now....and maybe they ought to think about throwing subs a bone in terms of some kind of veteran rewards program. Let's face it, not only are the subs actively contributing money to this game each month in terms of sub fees, but they are the ones spending most of the CM money too. F2P aren't spending any money and preferred people aren't even paying for a monthly sub so I doubt too many of them are the high spenders on the CM. It's not a make or break type of thing, but just seems like it would be good PR for a game that could use some PR.

     

    Step one: Appeal to a Veterans Appellate court located in your state (if you live in the states)

     

    Step two: Spend an outrageous amount of money employing a lawyer to write a half page brief about why you think you should get veterans rewards

     

    Step three: Receive a harsh denial and a note of stupidity for asking an Appellate court (which has little to no original jurisdiction) for a ruling when their job is to make sure that court cases from lower courts were fairly distributed

     

    Step four: Spend time sulking because you don't have enough money left to employ a lawyer to take your case to a General Trial court.

     

     

    And that is how you get veterans rewards :D

    Nostalgic post

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    Two years ago...

     

    - When 10 million credits made you sickly rich,

    - When :sy_bank: meant something,

    - When companions would load with their lightsabers drawn,

    - When Nightmare Karagga's Palace and Eternity Vault were extremely challenging,

    - When majority of players couldn't play PvP due to massive delays,

    - When there was not even any anti-aliasing,

    - When everyone was super-jealous of your Korrealis mount,

    - When your jaw dropped upon seeing someone driving a Desler,

    - When purple lightsaber crystal was a rarity,

    - The smile on your face upon looting Champion lightsaber from a PvP lockbox,

    - Rage of cowardly 'Pubs camping their base on Ilum's Western Ice Shelf,

    - The slideshows of Ilum,

    - When you could meet and fight players in the Outlaw's Den,

    - When every new flashpoint was a great challenge,

    - When our characters didn't have high-resolution textures outside of cinematics,

    - When companion head pieces wouldn't disappear.

     

    Share your pleasant (or not so pleasant!) memories and things that are lost forever which you remember from December 2011 :]

     

    Happy Anniversary.

     

    Yes, today is when Early Access to the official game began and SWTOR came to life!

     

    When you never dared to spacebar a single conversation because it was all so new :D

    Be wary of Operatives in-game

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    Just be very clear about who you're throwing the grenades at. Avoid any names that sound like current real life political leaders, and you won't have to worry about the NSA coming to black-bag you.

     

    Well, there goes my lighthearted bashing of certain political leaders. Welcome to Russia friends

     

    If you'll excuse me, im going to go write a formal complaint to my governor.

    Can we please start banning people who claim to be Gaming Legends?

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    Good morning,

     

    I'm sure you're all well aware of who I am, but if not then please allow me to introduce myself...

     

    I am Sir Marty the Magnificent. I'm a professional gamer and Gaming Legend who's been excelling in the world of gaming since 1996. Now that the introductions are over, let's get onto business.

     

    Yesterday evening, I logged in to find someone in Republic Fleet General Chat impersonating a Gaming Legend. Not only that, they had the audacity to have this guild tag: <Gaming Iegends>, with an upper-case "i". That being said, there have also been a number of troll guilds on my server being created to impersonate the real ones.

     

    Please start banning players who impersonate a professional Gaming Legend; indicate falsely that they are a Gaming Legend; or mislead others that they represent one or are an affiliate or partner, in any fashion.

     

    I'm this game's most famous, well-liked and loyal subscriber, and I also happen to be the best Guardian DPS on Prophecy of the Five and most likely in all of The Old Republic. Please deal with the wannabes before I am forced to react. It's inexcusable that you let these things happen, BioWare.

     

     

    Im torn between laughing at your joke, or crying because your serious

    Perception of GSF start spots for both sides

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    Actually, I disagree. I play a strike fighter on both the Rep side and the Imperial side. Even when I play Imperial Im still one of the first to arrive at B, C, or A. To be blunt, it appears to be that Imperials are just awful at space combat. Granite there are always the good players on both sides; however, on Begeran Colony there is a great absence of defense coordination. I attribute this to the prevalent personality for Imps to go for big damage numbers and leave protection of objectives secondary.

    Why did we leave?

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    SWTOR is just a garbage F2P cash grab. The CM is how it's making ends meet. Best to just let your sub run its course and never look back.

     

    If you're a PvP'er, don't even bother. The player-base is basically on life support. There's almost nothing BioFail can do to save it.

     

    I laugh at your ignornace :D

    Give Founders free unlimited content/no subscription

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    Been playing from day one. I gave you my money. Then you gave me a big slap in the face and made a f2p option. If you can afford letting 1 - 50 absolutely free, you can afford giving the people, who supported you since the start, free subscription and access to all content.

     

    Or you should let anyone who subscribes to the game for 6 months, whether paid monthly or in one sum, at the end have free access to all content, with no subscription.

     

     

    This is very futile, but I support is as well :rolleyes:

    GSF Spoiler: It Sucks

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    If they think people are going to pick up GSF and get hooked, I'm pretty sure they are wrong.

     

    Dog fights are more like a cat chasing its tail.

     

    The range and accuracy of weapons are a joke just like trying to figure out what's going on in game

     

    Sounds like someone sucks at GSF :p

    BAD CONTROLS! Oh, the bad controls...

    in Galactic Starfighter

    Posted · Edited by Elyons

    The controls are wonderful in my opinion. Mouse control allows for far more minute adjustments. On the other hand, Im beginning to notice modern flight PC controls are all mouse based. Warthunder, World Of Warplanes, etc. Granite they give the joystick option (something im sure SWTOR will implement) however, its time to realize that the BASIC controls for modern day flight simulators are going to be mouse based are apparently going to default to mouse cursors. Take some time in the tutorial arena to practice your skills with movement. It'll probably help your learning curve

    GS needs to lose or change the railgun...PERIOD

    in Galactic Starfighter

    Posted · Edited by Elyons

    To the point where it eliminates camping.

     

    Do you realize how easy it is to kill a camping gunship? You can jump a camping gunship with a scout at 15k meters in 5 seconds. I know players who use scout fighters extensively (one being my brother.) They consider gunships to be EASY pickings. If my brother wants a fast kill, he looks for anything past 15k meters.

     

     

     

    Seriously it honestly is not fair to me or other players that want to actually enjoy this and do objectives and win to be sniped by a bunch of cowards with little to no skill to be able to deal one shot kills.

     

    First of all, it is impossible to one shot any ship. Second of all, the gunship is used as a lock-down mechanic for enhanced group strategy. Without the gunship, fights are reduced to *CHAAAARRRRGGGGEEE PEW PEW PEW, - Respawn - * Third of all, I play a gunship on the side lines. I doubt you realize how difficult it is to hit a boosting scout at 15000 meters. Let alone stay alive when one comes for you. Try it

     

     

    But the gunship people can sit as far back as 15000m charge up and just pick us off with no way to really evade or dodge the shots or even know we are being locked on? It is not like the gunship has any real disadvantages to the other fighters, they can move just as well as a strike fighter as far as maneuvering but are a little slower

     

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    People dominating in GSF, what does it mean?

    in Galactic Starfighter

    Posted · Edited by Elyons

    Does it mean some have natural skill?

     

    Does it mean some folks have much more situational awareness?

     

    Does it mean some folks lack spatial intelligence and some others have it well developped?

     

    Does it mean some people are smarter?

     

    since its a whole new gameplay, id like to know

     

    what do you think?

     

    Id venture to say that their advantages stem from previous experience. I have several GSF friends who are very used to dogfighting combat with lead indicators (most likely from games such as warthunder, world of warplanes, etc)

    My GS experience is marred by the controls

    in Galactic Starfighter

    Posted

    GS, visually, is a very nice addition. No framerate issues either.

     

    The only ''detail'' are...the controls. I admit freely that I'm not very good at using them-but on the other hand I played extensively games like TIE Fighter/X Wing Alliance/IL-2 Sturmovik with decent success.

     

    I struggle with pulling basic combat manoeuver like loopings or immelmans (stuff I have been doing for litteraly decades): unless I miss something, there is no ''pure'' control of the pitch or yaw of the spacecraft, which is very annoying for pulling out actual evasive manoeuvers. I never played a game into which ''evasive manoeuvers'' are something that appears to me akin to ''get harder to hit for 20 seconds'': ''evasive manoeuvers'' mean for me actually manoeuvering the craft to escape the sight of the X-Wing (or Long Nose Folk Wulf....) that is on my sixes. And that's the point : flight school basic manoeuver like ''do a sharp turn to let the ennemy overshoot you'' is very hard to pull out for me with the controls.

     

    1) The fact that everyone fly the same spacecraft balanced for factions is not helping here : in the WW2 Pacific Theater that inspired the dogfights of SW, a Zero/TIE Fighter could turn faster than an Wildcat/Tie Fighter, but the Wildcat could take far more damage and dive faster. IE, when you fly a fighter that is ACTUALLY more nimble and faster than the other one, you have to use different tactics.

     

    I believe you simply need to practice with the controls. My guess is your overcorrecting when turning. Other then that, your dead wrong. You can do all of those maneuvers with little difficulty in GS. Just practice a bit :D

    Remove lock on rockets.

    in Galactic Starfighter

    Posted

    So friggin overpowered, just had some goon hiding somewhere out of sight spamming them and there is only one counter measure and thats on a huge cooldown....

     

    Make more counter measures or make the terrain destroy the rockets...

    Or better still remove them.

     

     

    No way. I play a strike fighter who uses missile lock capabilities. I consistently all so play against similar strike fighter set ups. Countermeasures are useless. The best option is to immediately start flying in circles to break the the current attempt to lock on - then boost to a section of the map that has a WHOLE lot of terrain (like point C on the starship construction map or point B on the Makeb map.) Impossible to get locked on there if you fly through the twists and turns.

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